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his aim was to reassure the common man

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what's happening Higher Side Chatters

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drink a little drink smoking a little

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smoke I'm Greg carlwood doing what I do

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in Sunny Sandy welcome to THC today our

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guest is going to be Kent Bain who wrote

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the book the most dangerous book in the

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world 911 as a mass ritual as well as a

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few follow-ups connecting the occult

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dots and some of the more recent

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tragedies of 2012 but before we take

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that serious double axle Swan Dive Into

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the Depths of Satan's [\h__\h] we got to

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get some positive fives flowing and with

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me today for feeling just such a need

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after a fair long Hiatus is the ever

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groovy Adam go rightly Adam man how's it

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going hey how's it going hey it's going

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well I am trying to check test out these

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headphones my cat was chewing on him I

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one ear so that's fine yeah I got a kit

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shoes on all kinds of [\h__\h] they're

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awesome yeah a lot less maintenance than

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dogs oh yeah or kids right yeah I don't

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yeah if your cat dies you don't go to

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yeah so anyway

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um you got any further on those book

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projects you want to talk about them at

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yeah they're uh coming along there's a

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few of them kind of related to a bunch

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of materials on discordianism that were

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there's going to be a book on the

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history of discordianism and some other

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uh Rarities uh kind of uh for people who

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don't know discordianism it's kind of

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hard to talk about some of this stuff

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without having folks eyes gloss over but

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for those into into discordianism it's

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going to be some pretty cool stuff uh

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coming out here in the next couple of

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years so is discordianism a philosophy

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is it a point of view is it a cult or

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religion

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uh all of those things and none of those

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things uh it is a uh quote unquote spoof

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religion created by a couple of guys uh

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Carey Thornley and Greg Hill

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back in the late 50s

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as just kind of an in-joke between them

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and as time progressed and they got into

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the 60s other people got involved with

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it it came uh kind of like a surrealist

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art movement in a sense and what

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discordianism is is the worship of the

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Greek goddess of chaos and Discord Eris

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it's different for everybody and anybody

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can join the religion and become a pope

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and start their own branch of

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discordianism my uh handle and

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discordianism is the wrong Reverend

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Houdini Kundalini of the Church of

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unwavering indifference

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it seems like yeah almost like a joke in

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some sense because you start looking at

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this you're like what is this you know I

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what is this and it all just seems to

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be jokes you know well uh perhaps but uh

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discordianism

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uh had uh later on in his life he

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stirring up some chaotic forces that he

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hadn't intend to uh deal with uh I got

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into all this stuff when I was writing

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my book the prankster and the conspiracy

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researching uh thornley's connection to

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the JFK assassination I didn't know a

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lot about discordianism then

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introduced to it then uh a few years

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another co-founder of discordianism had

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all the original discordian archive

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of Greg Hill who was the main dude

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behind discordianism and those were

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to me and so this is has resulted in all

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these different uh

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Kerry Thornley uh you know he

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new Oswald in the Marines was actually

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writing a book about Oswald prior to the

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JFK assassination and then later

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Thornley became

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was indicted by Jim Garrison Garrison

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you know claimed that Lauren Lee was uh

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one of involved in that whole uh Nexus

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of Spooks and New Orleans that Garrison

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claimed were behind the JFK

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assassination and Garrison uh later

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suspected that the discordian society

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was some kind of crazy CIA front an

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assassination Bureau damn uh

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thornly

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helped promote these theories when uh

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Garrison had somebody on his staff who

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believed that the Bavarian Illuminati

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was also involved in the assassination

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when Thornley heard this you know back

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in the late uh 60s when Garrison was

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after his ass he started promoting these

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theories that the discordian society was

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somehow involved with the Bavarian

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Illuminati all this craziness later came

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carry on the ass you know all this

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discordianism came full circle and

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a lot of chaos and nuttiness entered his

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life and he later on even after the

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Garrison investigation he came to

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realize that maybe Garrison was on the

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right track and um

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that Kerry had been unwittingly

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sucked into this JFK assassination

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that's a crazy story and it's in my book

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the prankster and the conspiracy

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and this latest project I'm working on

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uh tentatively called caught in the

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crossfire uh Carey Thornley and the

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Garrison investigation gets into all of

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this a bit deeper

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very cool do you have any idea when

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that's going to be out you still

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working on it uh it's uh

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first draft it's PR it's completed and

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I'm actually uh conversing with a

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publisher today about it so let's see

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how that will go yeah I know I'll get

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published uh somewhere in this you've

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gotta working through the uh details

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here of uh

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who that will be well cool man good luck

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on that

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yeah looks like it's about that time uh

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Ken's probably waiting for a ring which

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means it's conspiracy t-shirt plug-in

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time with conspiracies.net

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um how are yours working out for you man

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the squid of power I I know you've had

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it on I mean it's it's got a pretty

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definite hypnotic effect on beautiful

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women have you been experiencing that

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yeah the chicks dig it

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very awesome man well

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you know it's getting hard out there for

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a Pimp so buy my shirts it gets a little

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bit easier and we'll be right back with

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we're here because we don't buy into the

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[\h__\h] of mainstream culture we're

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tired of the mundane and passionless

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careers we've been shuffled into as a

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result of this orchestrated dead based

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system of rule and the Stranglehold on

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education and entertainment by Cold

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soulless corporations

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people yes we are frustrated yes we are

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tired and we reject the free approved

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tranquilizers that are Monday Night

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have to stop hiding stop hiding behind

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the headphones in the Cherry popper 420

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username let the world see that the

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resistance is strong and Society is

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changing there was a time to be

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anonymous that time has passed

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and so the higher side chats would like

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to present conspiracies as the dawning

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of this new paradigm in the uniform of

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the Revolution because bold fashion

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should mean more than some celebrity

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matress or frat boy and a sleeping

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disparities redefined bold fashion as

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having the balls to project socially

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uncomfortable and unpopular truths from

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it's guarantees.net let them know that

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bold designs for troubled times hard

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well there's no doubt that most Higher

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Side Chatters see the events of 9 11 as

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your textbook example of a modern day

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false flag attack but that's a far too

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simplistic of an understanding for such

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a complex string of events that are just

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completely soaked and lathered in occult

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symbolism dark magic Mass trauma-based

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mind control and plenty of homage to the

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dark Idols of these shadowy Puppet

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Masters lucky for us stupid Stoners

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today's guest Kent Bain has penetrated

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layers of the 911 onion I didn't even

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know were there which he's detailed at

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length in his new book entitled the most

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dangerous book in the world 9 11 as a

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mass ritual and he's here with Adam go

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Riley and I to demystify some of the

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stranger aspects of that tragic event

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Kent welcome to THC

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thank you it's good to be with you

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absolutely yeah I really appreciate you

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being here it's a pleasure the book is

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fascinating with an entertaining and

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humorous tone not to mention connection

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after connection the ritualistic and

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occult aspects of events this is an area

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I've been really interested in lately

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but it's tough to understand a language

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you don't speak you know and I don't

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have much of a foundation for a cult

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meaning and symbolism so I end up just

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trying to put things together like a kid

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trying to make a baby with two Barbie

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dolls you know just awkwardly banging

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them together trying to figure out how

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this [\h__\h] works but I mean let's start

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with you though man as I understand that

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you didn't come to the events in 911

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with a background in this stuff either

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so how long was that process what were

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the first few odd threads you started

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pulling that really made this whole

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angle unravel for you

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well I didn't you're right I didn't come

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to the scene with uh with a background

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and uh the occult or in symbolism or

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anything of that nature and as a matter

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of fact I came to the whole 911 truth

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movement uh later than most uh it was

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four or five years ago when I really

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started looking into it seriously and

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then uh it wasn't too long after that

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that I I really began to pick up on some

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some threads that I thought were

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significant and and dig deeper and that

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led into the occult research but

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yeah I was asleep at the wheel for for a

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long time and then coming to it uh so

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late I really had the benefit of a lot

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of good research that had already been

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done and a lot of people that had

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already begun to explore the area of uh

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the occult with relation to 911 so there

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there were a lot of things that I could

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um there were a lot of pieces of the

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puzzle laying around for me to pull

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together so it wasn't all original

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research or original thinking on my part

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and I acknowledge that

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um you know in the book and then I

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always like to mention that in

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interviews is that you know that this

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was a big collaboration on the part of

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um you know dozens and dozens of people

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that I've never actually met but whose

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work I've drawn from so

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um and it was like I guess a

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crowdsourcing effort

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I came to it

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um

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really trying to make sense of of a lot

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of the the individual pieces of evidence

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that don't fit that seem suspicious and

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I thought after I'd encountered enough

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of them I thought well there's got to be

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an explanation for this and I'll look

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into it and it'll you know I can just

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make it all go away and I'll be able to

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sleep better at night but the uh

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entirely the opposite happened and I the

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more that I dug around and the more I

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looked into it

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the the more evidence of that nature was

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there and the uglier the picture guide

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and then as I did Research into the

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occult and began to figure out what was

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going on

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and have some sense of it and I began to

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to research it called ritual and

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psychological warfare

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um I had to do a you know a quick study

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and a lot of different topics including

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astrophyology and I call symbolism and

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so

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it was a huge crash course for me and

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I've um you know what I tried to do in

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the book was not inundate the reader

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with too much about any particular

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subject and you know too much about the

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numerology or the astrology but just

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just enough to understand the what I

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refer to as the occult script for 9 11

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so even if if a reader or listener comes

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to it completely fresh there's enough

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there that

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um you know you'll understand it and I I

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set the context for the entire

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discussion and then kind of uh

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background people on the the specific

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symbols that are used and so forth but

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yeah it was a real it was a certainly an

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eye-opening experience for me in a real

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journey educational process

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and I I try to make it an easier

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experience for the reader

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and then also throw in heavy juices

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um heavy doses of humor because it's

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such a difficult and heavy subject that

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um

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you know I wouldn't want to read a

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completely serious book on this subject

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and um another thing I'll just point out

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is that uh as I got into it there was

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there were definite uh just heavy

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overtones of

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dark humor black humor throughout the

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this occult script and we can touch on

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that a bit as we go forward but humor

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yeah I mean you couldn't write in a

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completely serious way about something

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that entailed so much dark humor that um

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when it was used for the purpose of you

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know mockery and us you know I suppose

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the

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um of those who orchestrated this event

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but

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yeah that's kind of a the long process

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that I went through yeah I love the tone

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of the book because you you're

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presenting such heavy

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information a lot of it has you know you

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got to give some history to it and then

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you're just kind of like and there's one

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connection and they're like if that's

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not enough uh here's another one and

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here's another one and deal with this

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one what you will and you know I just I

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like that matter of fact tone and

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because it's such you know you're

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dealing with dark dark material and uh

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you know you're just kind of like well

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you know connection after connection do

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whatever you want with it it's just it's

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it's good it's a great read

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well the the cumulative weight of the

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evidence is what's convincing and you

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know when you have to lay out a lot of

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different dots and then connect them

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that can be a bit tedious but the the

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reward the payoff is worth it because

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when you pay attention long enough and

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you

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this framework or architecture

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for the event uh and and I know I've and

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not just uh in an entirely joking manner

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refer to it as the occult script because

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it was it was highly scripted

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um and you know who knows if they all

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had a Playbook they were all reading

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from but that wouldn't be too

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far-fetched because you can reconstruct

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the script in a very detailed way and it

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was the result of um you know a lot of

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creativity hard work and and uh you know

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Blood Sweat and Tears yeah well let's uh

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let's look at some of these dots under

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the microscope I mean I would say that

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the one of the occult connections that

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I've heard addressed the most before

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your book uh was the Twin Towers were a

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modern representation of the pillars of

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Hermes which you know never really meant

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anything to me but your book spends a

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good amount of time on this can you

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explain to the people some of the

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justification for this connection other

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than them just being two structures with

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a similar phallic form there's a little

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more to it right

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well there's there's a lot more to it

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and what you'll find with the symbols

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uh if you just look into them in general

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uh you know various symbols including

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the Pentagon and the the

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um fillers of Hermes they'll have

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multiple interpretations and meanings

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depending on the the time period the

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context uh who is

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um utilizing the symbols of course with

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911 we're dealing with a really a black

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mass Black Magic Ritual so we're we've

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used the

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um I guess the dark interpretation or

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connotation of the symbols

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but the uh with the the pillars of

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Hermes

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um you could also see the the twin

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towers as you know massive concrete and

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steel representations of the twin

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pillars of Freemasonry and with with a

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lot of the symbols there are uh even

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from a you know if you're just

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considering the the dark arts there are

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multiple layered references and so it's

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not just one thing and

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I I tend to think they get uh additional

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points for that type of thing but in you

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know when when they're um looking at the

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these rituals and and um patting each

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other on the back but there are multiple

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references uh multiple interpretations

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that I go to go through in the book

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about the the significance of the

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pillars of Hermes uh specifically Hermes

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as a a god of Commerce God of trade God

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of trickery uh and it's as important the

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vacation of

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um the trickster archetype and of course

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911 was a gigantic

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um false flag

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um

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Act of just Mass trickery and so it what

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they were doing was invoking the the god

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of trickery the the trickster himself

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Hermes

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um who's also

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um recognized as Thoth or

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um and various other deities but with

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with the the pillars of Hermes they they

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weren't just a super-sized symbols

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um they they uh and they were used in a

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way to invoke the spirit of these of

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this particular deity and

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um uh we need to

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make a little side note here

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um that the uh you know when you just

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like there can be multiple

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interpretations for the symbols they can

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be invoking different deities with the

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same symbol or with the same act and so

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where they're invoking Hermes of course

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when you stand back and take do kind of

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a meta-analysis on the entire day's

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events I mean it's it has strong

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luciferian satanic overtones

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but the uh you know there's uh again

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this is it's really complicated texture

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it's very sophisticated and you know

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even though we could view it as a

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luciferian mega ritual it's not

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exclusively so so the they're in they're

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invoking these deities and they they pay

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homage to and worship multiple deities

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Hermes being Chief among them

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and uh so that was

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um you know in a sense declaring the

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overall nature of the day's events

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because the the Twin Towers were the the

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first objects uh math symbols that were

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uh in in utilized and invoked that day

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and of course they went on to be used

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um as a covering in several chapters as

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you know uh Mass Alters or sacrificial

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vessels

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so you you start to drill and drill down

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further and further and peel the onion

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and there there are lots of different

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layers but it's it's not

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um super sophisticated you just have to

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take it in a methodical methodical

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fashion

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um

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well I think that's what makes it so

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hard to swallow for some people because

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we're used to an A to B connection and

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this is kind of like a spider web of

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connections you know and so absolutely

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people are like well what does it

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represent does it represent this or does

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it represent this and if you can't tell

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them one or the other they kind of they

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don't really understand the occult

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things but to me it's almost like

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uh the one problem with it or criticism

509
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is almost like a horoscope in that it

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can be uh interpreted multiple ways it

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can be fairly vague so it's sort of up

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to

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if they're uh if they're strong enough

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connections to see something but I mean

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when you pile them on by the tons you

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know you got to look at it and say can

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we can there really just be all these

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coincidences to uh to occult symbolism

519
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it seems it seems a little bit

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far-fetched there but

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one interesting aspect to the Twin

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Towers is that when you go into it it

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almost seems like and it's a scary

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thought but it seems like this plan

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might have been in action for a long

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time like almost to uh the building of

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the towers himself if possible

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I'm you know how several years ago I

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would have laughed at that idea right

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yeah but it seems like but like you when

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you first

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um said at the beginning of the

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interview uh you know the the

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conclusions are

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um difficult to grasp and and wrestle

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with because it's when you layer all the

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evidence

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uh draw the connections and then let the

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evidence tell the story and then basic

540
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conclusions on that that's that's when

541
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you have trouble making things go away

542
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and dispelling them because you're left

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with a really uncomfortable conclusions

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that conflict with your you know in many

545
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instances with your uh world view and

546
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the way that you perceive the world

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operates and you really don't want to

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think about a group of people

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um with such Psychopathic character

550
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,880
having such power and influence that not

551
00:22:42,289 --> 00:22:40,799
only can they pull off a massive false

552
00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:42,299
flag attack and not a single person go

553
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:44,760
to jail but then on top of that that the

554
00:22:50,210 --> 00:22:47,460
very same set of events is somehow

555
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:50,220
orchestrated as a very as a super

556
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:52,080
sophisticated occult ritual mind control

557
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:55,679
operation to think about those types of

558
00:23:01,850 --> 00:22:58,020
individuals being able to manipulate us

559
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:01,860
manipulate our uh the you know the

560
00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:04,440
our democracy our Republic the

561
00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:07,320
institutions of government uh and and

562
00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:11,000
power uh you know essentially

563
00:23:17,390 --> 00:23:13,980
with with uh

564
00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:17,400
uh no uh limitations on what they can

565
00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:19,860
accomplish that's really scary

566
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:21,900
um and most people want the business and

567
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:24,480
of course you start to get over into the

568
00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:29,280
this commonly held stereotype of uh the

569
00:23:34,130 --> 00:23:32,460
New World Order and the the sort of uh

570
00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:34,140
James Bond

571
00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:37,320
um mad scientist who who's you know got

572
00:23:41,930 --> 00:23:38,520
this

573
00:23:43,970 --> 00:23:41,940
um plan to rule the world and so you're

574
00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:43,980
left with some some really challenging

575
00:23:51,049 --> 00:23:47,460
conclusions but uh the the evidence is

576
00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:51,059
what you know that forced me to draw

577
00:23:55,610 --> 00:23:52,440
some of these conclusions and I still

578
00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:55,620
wrestle with the the implications and I

579
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:57,900
think um most people do

580
00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:00,960
and um you know and then further once

581
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:03,659
you you start to to examine some of

582
00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:04,799
these issues

583
00:24:09,529 --> 00:24:06,600
uh and and think about possible

584
00:24:11,810 --> 00:24:09,539
implications then you know your your

585
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:11,820
left was not a lot of good ideas for

586
00:24:15,409 --> 00:24:14,159
what to do about it I mean it's not as

587
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,419
if you see the problem and then

588
00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:18,000
immediately have dozens of this you're

589
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:20,820
talking about it on how to overcome uh

590
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:24,720
the uh the the power character

591
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,080
so it's it's not fun reading and it's

592
00:24:32,529 --> 00:24:30,000
not any fun once you get through reading

593
00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:32,539
it yeah I mean it it's definitely

594
00:24:36,529 --> 00:24:34,740
challenging but

595
00:24:37,970 --> 00:24:36,539
you don't want let's look at some of the

596
00:24:39,409 --> 00:24:37,980
examples because one of the things that

597
00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:39,419
I thought was really interesting like

598
00:24:43,970 --> 00:24:41,159
this definitely raised some eyebrows is

599
00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:43,980
you have a section called the 11 year

600
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:46,200
countdown which you know starts with

601
00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:50,640
Bush senior speech on 9 11 of 1990 which

602
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:53,159
is that bush or that uh that bush speech

603
00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:54,240
that everyone talks about that's the one

604
00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:55,559
where he mentions the New World Order

605
00:25:00,409 --> 00:24:57,960
and that is like literally 11 years to

606
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:00,419
the day and then another interesting

607
00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:03,360
side note is that the building that is

608
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:05,220
being built at Ground Zero now is called

609
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:08,640
One World Trade Center and right I mean

610
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,440
there there it is you know and it also

611
00:25:15,010 --> 00:25:12,480
you know another thing you point out in

612
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:15,020
the book is it has

613
00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:19,440
1776 stories and 1776 is the year the

614
00:25:22,909 --> 00:25:21,240
Illuminati was formed wow you know if

615
00:25:26,930 --> 00:25:22,919
that doesn't give you a conspiracy boner

616
00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:30,830
well yeah so so Papi Bush announces it

617
00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:33,240
and then 11 years later it happens and

618
00:25:36,289 --> 00:25:35,100
then 11 years after that we get Benghazi

619
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,299
and then they're milking that for all

620
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:38,159
it's worth I mean the um

621
00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:42,000
the of course the 11 is connected with

622
00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:43,799
um the twin towers and it's one of the

623
00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:45,480
numbers of power that are incorporated

624
00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:47,460
into the whole ritual and it's

625
00:25:52,970 --> 00:25:50,820
it's the uh the number of magic and

626
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:52,980
Aleister Crowley

627
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:55,919
um claimed it as his number and so the

628
00:26:01,789 --> 00:25:56,700
the

629
00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:01,799
language that you're not going to

630
00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:04,140
understand any of this but when when you

631
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,600
understand how important all the numbers

632
00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:08,940
and symbols are that that is literally

633
00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:10,740
part of a line and occult language that

634
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,600
they use in a way that they communicate

635
00:26:17,769 --> 00:26:15,120
with each other in plain sight that's

636
00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:17,779
how they do these things they don't just

637
00:26:24,169 --> 00:26:19,980
orchestrate them

638
00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:24,179
uh in in secret I mean the the part of

639
00:26:31,370 --> 00:26:28,740
the uh what makes these these Mass

640
00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:31,380
public rituals so compelling and so

641
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:33,480
exciting for them as they they knew them

642
00:26:39,289 --> 00:26:36,120
and they're leaving these Clues uh just

643
00:26:42,169 --> 00:26:39,299
right out in front of us but because

644
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:42,179
um of a virus database has been updated

645
00:26:46,909 --> 00:26:44,100
talk about it a bit in the book um

646
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:46,919
because of symbol of literacy

647
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:50,400
um we don't see these things we just see

648
00:26:53,870 --> 00:26:52,620
buildings we just see planes we don't we

649
00:26:56,510 --> 00:26:53,880
don't know to pay attention to the

650
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,520
numbers or to the the constructs the

651
00:27:00,830 --> 00:26:58,799
buildings themselves and so they they

652
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:00,840
can perform these uh

653
00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:05,100
uh gigantic rituals uh right before us

654
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:09,299
and and we don't we're none the wiser so

655
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,200
um the the uh 11 you know being used

656
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,600
repeatedly and various points throughout

657
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,039
the ritual

658
00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:19,440
that's that's a a constant not something

659
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:20,700
that

660
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:21,360
um

661
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,980
you know at some point I just quit

662
00:27:28,370 --> 00:27:25,200
paying attention I found enough 11s to

663
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,380
convince myself that that was uh you

664
00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:30,240
know one of their key numbers and then I

665
00:27:33,769 --> 00:27:32,100
just quit quit chronicling the

666
00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:33,779
appearance of the 11 because you can you

667
00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:35,460
can really get carried away with that I

668
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:37,020
mean of course you can get carried away

669
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:38,640
with numerology

670
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:41,700
and you can find 11s in in in everything

671
00:27:48,529 --> 00:27:44,760
but I mean this the of course the number

672
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:48,539
11 was the flight number of um of the

673
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:50,340
plane that hit the the first Tower and

674
00:27:54,409 --> 00:27:52,620
and then you kind of go down the list

675
00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:54,419
and importance from there but it was

676
00:28:00,110 --> 00:27:58,200
definitely I one of the uh new numerical

677
00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,120
stars of the day

678
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:02,159
mm-hmm

679
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:04,860
hey uh Kent I have a question you talk

680
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,100
about these Mass rituals you know let me

681
00:28:13,789 --> 00:28:11,039
go back to the JFK assess

682
00:28:15,889 --> 00:28:13,799
Nation all the way through 9 11 in

683
00:28:17,389 --> 00:28:15,899
recent shootings

684
00:28:19,149 --> 00:28:17,399
um you know there's a form of mind

685
00:28:21,490 --> 00:28:19,159
control that you hear about in

686
00:28:24,769 --> 00:28:21,500
conspiracy law called

687
00:28:26,930 --> 00:28:24,779
trauma-based Mind Control not you know

688
00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:26,940
we're talking about the subjects

689
00:28:31,370 --> 00:28:29,220
Manchurian Candidate types they use this

690
00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:31,380
top type of uh

691
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:33,960
trauma-based mind control to uh

692
00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:37,679
basically control the victim you think

693
00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:39,659
this is what's happening on a larger

694
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,360
scale it's another form form of trauma

695
00:28:48,169 --> 00:28:44,880
based mind control to uh condition and

696
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,179
program folks using these things like

697
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:50,640
once again the JFK assassination or 9

698
00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:51,840
11.

699
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,520
yeah absolutely and you know the what I

700
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:58,399
um wanted to do with the book was use

701
00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:02,159
911 as really a case study but um you

702
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:04,200
know for those that aren't familiar with

703
00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:07,080
these Mass rituals and then once once

704
00:29:10,669 --> 00:29:09,240
you see the uh the architecture of the

705
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:10,679
mass rituals then of course you can look

706
00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:12,000
backwards you can look forwards and

707
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:14,700
we've got the most recent example of uh

708
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:18,600
of Sandy Hook and the uh 911 is the

709
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:21,360
grandest example that we have uh so it

710
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:22,980
was a good case study but certainly you

711
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:25,320
can use it to then begin to dissect

712
00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:28,320
other rituals and the to your point

713
00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:31,020
about the tunnel-based mind control

714
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,340
um

715
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:35,279
uh are

716
00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:38,880
psychological programming the uh you

717
00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:40,740
know what they found uh the

718
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,860
practitioners of the these uh mind

719
00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:45,840
control experiments was that the occult

720
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,100
aspects of the rituals were the most

721
00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:52,320
effective in producing trauma they

722
00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:54,360
created generated maximum trauma on the

723
00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:56,760
for the victim and therefore maximum

724
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:58,740
susceptibility to the subsequent

725
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:00,000
programming

726
00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:04,500
and we can take that and apply it to the

727
00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:06,600
scale of mass Consciousness to the

728
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:08,820
general public the global public you

729
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:11,820
know and view the the media as the the

730
00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:13,740
conduit through which they're generating

731
00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:17,220
the psychological trauma on the scale of

732
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:19,740
of global Consciousness and so you're

733
00:30:25,789 --> 00:30:23,399
dead on that that is uh it is a form of

734
00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:25,799
mass trauma-based mind control it's a

735
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:27,720
you know gigantic psychological warfare

736
00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:28,860
operation

737
00:30:36,049 --> 00:30:33,480
and then and you know it's it of course

738
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,059
didn't just traumatize the nation on one

739
00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:39,120
day I mean you know you have so many

740
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:41,580
different cues from the images that are

741
00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:44,100
you know showed shown repeatedly on

742
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,880
television to you know just the uh there

743
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:49,919
are so many things that just conjure up

744
00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:52,440
the pain over and over again and you

745
00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:53,940
know we were treated to a big round of

746
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,580
it on the 10th anniversary uh year

747
00:30:59,529 --> 00:30:57,840
before last

748
00:31:01,789 --> 00:30:59,539
um it is just

749
00:31:03,649 --> 00:31:01,799
documentaries and news programs and

750
00:31:06,289 --> 00:31:03,659
special editions of magazines and it's

751
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,299
just they continue to use that tool and

752
00:31:09,889 --> 00:31:08,159
bring it back up and and you know

753
00:31:12,529 --> 00:31:09,899
generate further injury and keep that

754
00:31:15,169 --> 00:31:12,539
wound open to keep us scared keep us in

755
00:31:19,850 --> 00:31:15,179
a state of Perpetual fear and Terror

756
00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:19,860
so that we are at their Mercy it's we're

757
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:22,860
we're you know have a victim mentality

758
00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:25,440
and we we're completely susceptible to

759
00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:28,860
whatever they uh want to do to us I mean

760
00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:30,779
they you know essentially they put us in

761
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,000
a position of asking

762
00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:35,039
um them to do what they they want to do

763
00:31:39,409 --> 00:31:38,039
to begin with but yeah uh and that gets

764
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:39,419
over into the issue of consent and I

765
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:41,460
deal with that in the book but it's uh

766
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:43,620
the main point is that it produces the

767
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:45,840
results they want regardless of

768
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,600
you know the issue of consent or you

769
00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:50,880
know how sophisticated technology is or

770
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:52,860
how many different ways they beat us

771
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,919
over the head it it produces exactly the

772
00:32:01,070 --> 00:31:58,080
results they want and they have it down

773
00:32:02,810 --> 00:32:01,080
to a science and it's it's very powerful

774
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:02,820
and very sophisticated

775
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:05,340
well let's let's look at some of these

776
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:07,679
things some of these uh weird

777
00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:09,720
coincidences that are a little easier to

778
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,260
digest for people I mean for example one

779
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,600
that's that's I think pretty easy to

780
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,000
grasp is George Bush's role and actions

781
00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:19,919
on that day and the the Satanism

782
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:21,480
connection can you go into that a little

783
00:32:24,289 --> 00:32:23,100
bit

784
00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:24,299
yeah

785
00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:27,480
um and what we need to keep in mind is

786
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:29,940
that of course there are genuine

787
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:32,760
synchronicities uh produced by

788
00:32:37,009 --> 00:32:35,279
you know depends on your your world view

789
00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:37,019
really as to you know how

790
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:38,820
synchronicities actually operate but

791
00:32:45,529 --> 00:32:41,340
what you'll find in in these types of

792
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,539
rituals is they generate purposefully uh

793
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:47,279
these these artificially engineered

794
00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:49,679
synchronicities and so they

795
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:50,820
um

796
00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:53,760
that's part of fly you you tend to want

797
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:55,620
to talk it up to coincidence because it

798
00:32:58,430 --> 00:32:57,000
appears you know it just looks a little

799
00:33:00,409 --> 00:32:58,440
funny but you can't quite figure it out

800
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:00,419
but they they do that

801
00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:04,380
um on a on a just a broad scale with

802
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:06,299
these types of rituals and then with 911

803
00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:08,220
specifically but

804
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:11,640
uh so we've got uh on the morning of of

805
00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:14,580
September 11th George W bush sitting in

806
00:33:22,490 --> 00:33:17,880
a Sarasota Florida classroom and he's

807
00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:22,500
uh being treated to a story by a group

808
00:33:27,950 --> 00:33:24,659
of uh probably second graders and it's

809
00:33:30,110 --> 00:33:27,960
the the pet goat

810
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:30,120
um which you know seems innocent enough

811
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:34,080
until you uh place all of that in

812
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:37,080
broader context and understand 911 as a

813
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:41,760
a mass ritual on some level a a black a

814
00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:44,279
black mass and and the episode in

815
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:48,059
Sarasota really is was intended to be a

816
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:51,840
a black mass and the reading of this uh

817
00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:53,760
particular children's story was intended

818
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,340
to invoke uh the goat-headed deity

819
00:34:02,810 --> 00:33:58,080
Baphomet

820
00:34:05,149 --> 00:34:02,820
um uh and as representative really of of

821
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:05,159
um any number of things but it's it's

822
00:34:09,169 --> 00:34:07,620
fits right in with the luciferian spirit

823
00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:09,179
of the day

824
00:34:13,609 --> 00:34:11,159
but um

825
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:13,619
you'll if you've never watched the video

826
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,399
of uh bush in the classroom you should

827
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:18,960
uh listen to the instructional style

828
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:20,820
that was used in the the children

829
00:34:24,169 --> 00:34:23,460
reading the book and it has a very sort

830
00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:24,179
of

831
00:34:30,050 --> 00:34:27,720
a ritual like quality to it and then

832
00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:30,060
there's the the fact that Bliss didn't

833
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:31,560
get up for seven minutes after he was

834
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:34,679
informed that uh America was under

835
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:37,200
attack I think his chief of staff uh

836
00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:40,560
whispered in his ear and the uh it that

837
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:42,419
that's a really interesting episode

838
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:45,179
because you've got uh

839
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:47,520
those facts and then a number of others

840
00:34:53,629 --> 00:34:50,220
that I present in that chapter but then

841
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:53,639
just the fact of of where bush is that

842
00:34:56,450 --> 00:34:55,020
morning

843
00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:56,460
um is one of these artificially

844
00:34:59,870 --> 00:34:58,140
engineered synchronicities I was

845
00:35:03,770 --> 00:34:59,880
referring to

846
00:35:07,550 --> 00:35:03,780
um Muhammad Atta the uh purported

847
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:07,560
ringleader of the 911 hijackings and the

848
00:35:14,089 --> 00:35:11,040
uh pilot of American Airlines flight 11

849
00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:14,099
that hit the first Tower he actually

850
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:16,440
undertook part of his flight training in

851
00:35:21,290 --> 00:35:18,420
Sarasota

852
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:21,300
um Moore was he took a little bit more

853
00:35:26,569 --> 00:35:24,480
training at a uh the the Venice

854
00:35:30,109 --> 00:35:26,579
municipal airport which is about 10

855
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:30,119
miles uh south of of Sarasota

856
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:34,140
but uh for for Bush on the very morning

857
00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:37,020
that the attacks occur to be sitting

858
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:40,680
in a in a town where the ringleader of

859
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:43,740
the the attacks took Flight Training is

860
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:46,320
that it's just absurd to think that

861
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:49,260
that's a pure coincidence and that's one

862
00:35:53,870 --> 00:35:52,260
of those types of things that uh you

863
00:35:55,310 --> 00:35:53,880
know really throws you off at first but

864
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:55,320
then once you have it in context you

865
00:36:01,250 --> 00:35:57,540
kind of get it it's part of the joke as

866
00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:01,260
it you know and it's also there are uh

867
00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:02,460
you know there's a kind of a

868
00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:05,300
well-documented history of the CIA using

869
00:36:11,329 --> 00:36:09,540
the Venice Airport for it's it's uh drug

870
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,339
running operations and so it was a tip

871
00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:13,680
of the hat to Poppy Bush and the cia's

872
00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:15,420
activities in that area so you got

873
00:36:20,329 --> 00:36:18,599
that's kind of a multi-layered little uh

874
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:20,339
tip of the hat to any number of things

875
00:36:25,790 --> 00:36:22,440
there you know and of course

876
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,800
who's governor of uh Florida at that

877
00:36:30,589 --> 00:36:27,839
time it's it's yeah this you know little

878
00:36:32,930 --> 00:36:30,599
brother Jeb Bush and so it's kind of an

879
00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:32,940
All in the Family Affair there in

880
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:34,980
Sarasota

881
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:37,260
um and you know you can rightly view

882
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:39,540
George W the commander-in-chief really

883
00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:41,760
as the high priest of a black mass that

884
00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:44,339
was being conducted and that you know

885
00:36:46,970 --> 00:36:45,240
it's

886
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:46,980
you think well he's in Florida and the

887
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:49,260
attacks from Washington and Shanksville

888
00:36:55,010 --> 00:36:53,400
and New York is it's you know in their

889
00:36:57,069 --> 00:36:55,020
mind it's all connected on the astral

890
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:57,079
level and he's he's presiding over this

891
00:37:02,450 --> 00:36:59,760
uh whole series of events and kind of

892
00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:02,460
initiating the day and uh you know

893
00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:05,220
really serving to oversee this this

894
00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:07,020
gigantic

895
00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:08,700
um

896
00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:13,020
really a cult script as it's being

897
00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:15,960
played out and so he he helped uh I

898
00:37:19,609 --> 00:37:17,640
guess kick off the day's events that

899
00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:19,619
morning and of course they lasted well

900
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:21,780
into the the latter part of the day

901
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:23,460
but um

902
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:26,460
yeah it's uh

903
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:29,760
you just when you link all the different

904
00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:32,280
pieces of evidence together you you see

905
00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:34,260
exactly what they were doing and again

906
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:37,380
what's difficult to to really come to

907
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:41,520
terms with is as a lot of it does you

908
00:37:45,530 --> 00:37:43,320
might see some occult significance and

909
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:45,540
in many instances you do but then in

910
00:37:51,470 --> 00:37:48,720
other instances that uh the only

911
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:51,480
conclusion that you can draw you know

912
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,480
for some of the the inclusions of some

913
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,880
of these different points or facts is

914
00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:58,560
that it was just done for kicks just

915
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:01,740
just as an ins you know Insider joke or

916
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,680
as a you know to acknowledge

917
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:06,960
um something that is a meaning to them

918
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:09,780
that uh you know it's just a big joke so

919
00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:13,440
yeah um it's I mean I think that looking

920
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:16,500
at Bush on that day is is pretty telling

921
00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:18,240
I mean there are no other animals that

922
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:21,300
represent uh you know a demon in the way

923
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:22,980
that the goat head does you know so I

924
00:38:27,170 --> 00:38:25,200
mean that is that connection loose I

925
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,180
mean that's that's up to the individual

926
00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:29,040
to decide but if you haven't heard the

927
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:31,560
kids reading on that day you have to and

928
00:38:35,089 --> 00:38:33,660
in fact I mean I can have edit this out

929
00:38:37,130 --> 00:38:35,099
if it doesn't work out well but I'm

930
00:38:38,690 --> 00:38:37,140
gonna try to play it through YouTube I

931
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:38,700
think I think all three of us will be

932
00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:39,780
able to hear it and I think it will

933
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:42,599
record but I'm gonna give it a shot

934
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:45,599
okay get ready to read all these words

935
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:47,820
on this page without making a mistake

936
00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:50,160
look at the letter at the end and

937
00:38:55,849 --> 00:38:53,220
remember the sound it makes it ready yes

938
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:55,859
hi get ready to read this word the best

939
00:39:02,890 --> 00:39:00,079
way get ready yes sound it out get ready

940
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:02,900
sound it out get ready

941
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:07,260
what word yes boys and girls sound this

942
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:15,849
read these words the fast way get ready

943
00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:19,140
let's play get ready press yes must

944
00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:21,240
let's read these words the fast way

945
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:23,940
without making a mistake get ready yes

946
00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:26,880
kite get ready okay yes kit get ready

947
00:39:33,650 --> 00:39:30,839
yeah yes deal get ready yes playing get

948
00:39:36,170 --> 00:39:33,660
ready yes yes

949
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:36,180
okay that actually worked out but I mean

950
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,300
there's so many words so many damn words

951
00:39:43,730 --> 00:39:41,280
kids could be reciting but on the day of

952
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:43,740
9 11 they're reciting kite hit steel

953
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:48,060
plain must I mean kite is a little off

954
00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:52,079
but hit steel plain must I mean that

955
00:39:56,030 --> 00:39:53,820
sounds occultish to me and it also

956
00:39:58,730 --> 00:39:56,040
sounds very coincidental to what

957
00:40:01,130 --> 00:39:58,740
happened on that day

958
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:01,140
um you might want to edit this out uh

959
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:03,060
this is all right if we just kind of

960
00:40:08,569 --> 00:40:05,160
yeah yeah background you a little bit on

961
00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:08,579
that uh that really seems compelling

962
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,440
when you look at the high definition

963
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:13,680
version of that video uh and you can see

964
00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:16,260
the words they're reciting they're not

965
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:18,780
those words they sound like them really

966
00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:21,599
and you know yeah I mean who knows I

967
00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:22,980
mean that might be close enough for

968
00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:25,260
ritual purposes but the uh the person

969
00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:26,700
that did that the video that you're

970
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:29,700
looking at uh was going based on what it

971
00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:31,140
sounded like the kids were saying but

972
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:33,060
when you look at the high def version

973
00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:34,740
and you can see the the words on the

974
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,740
board that the stage is pointing to it's

975
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,400
um

976
00:40:42,349 --> 00:40:40,079
I forget what the words are but they're

977
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:42,359
not those four words wow yeah I mean I

978
00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:43,680
would keep it in there because I know

979
00:40:47,809 --> 00:40:45,660
that that's a popular video I've had

980
00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:47,819
that video sent to me many times I think

981
00:40:51,230 --> 00:40:49,140
it's important that if it's not

982
00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:51,240
legitimate that people know that there's

983
00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:52,920
tons of stuff to look at but it is

984
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,180
important to note because that's one of

985
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:55,680
the most popular ones if that's not

986
00:40:59,089 --> 00:40:57,480
legitimate then yeah I would like people

987
00:41:02,750 --> 00:40:59,099
to know that

988
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:02,760
well and you know again I went into this

989
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,740
trying to disconnect the dots and not

990
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:06,480
connect them and ended up having to

991
00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:10,079
reverse my uh attitude on things but the

992
00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:10,940
uh

993
00:41:19,550 --> 00:41:16,380
the use of the goat

994
00:41:21,170 --> 00:41:19,560
um the story of a little children's

995
00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:21,180
story

996
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,700
um you know one of the things that I I

997
00:41:26,089 --> 00:41:25,440
did was

998
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:26,099
um

999
00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:30,480
you know I I try to really assess

1000
00:41:34,849 --> 00:41:33,960
whether or not in this particular symbol

1001
00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:34,859
or

1002
00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:41,640
was it tenuous and well specifically

1003
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,700
when you do the research and I and I I

1004
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,079
think I put enough in the book to

1005
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:48,240
probably convince the the reader and The

1006
00:41:53,690 --> 00:41:51,240
Listener it is such a powerful symbol uh

1007
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:53,700
historically and then uh contemporary

1008
00:41:58,849 --> 00:41:56,240
terms to the Freemasons as well as

1009
00:42:01,309 --> 00:41:58,859
representing and invoking Baphomet that

1010
00:42:03,950 --> 00:42:01,319
you know when you when you do a provide

1011
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:03,960
enough background that that really helps

1012
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:06,780
the the reader get it because I I didn't

1013
00:42:11,210 --> 00:42:09,420
realize how important it was but when

1014
00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:11,220
when you understand the symbols and

1015
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,280
numbers and then the sort of the the

1016
00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:16,319
system of thought and the sort of the

1017
00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:18,780
con broader context for some of these

1018
00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:21,000
symbols and what it represents then you

1019
00:42:24,349 --> 00:42:22,440
catch on then you're able to understand

1020
00:42:26,569 --> 00:42:24,359
it you might and then it's more than

1021
00:42:28,970 --> 00:42:26,579
just a you know a bit of a an

1022
00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:28,980
interesting note uh or of you know

1023
00:42:33,770 --> 00:42:30,300
perhaps a

1024
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:33,780
an interesting link the uh the uh

1025
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:36,480
presence of the goat was um

1026
00:42:44,210 --> 00:42:41,220
you know a really intentionally uh woven

1027
00:42:47,329 --> 00:42:44,220
in and I I you know people are right to

1028
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:47,339
be skeptical uh about all of this but

1029
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:49,619
then when you do the the background

1030
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,560
research and you're able to establish

1031
00:42:58,370 --> 00:42:54,480
context and then show how the symbol was

1032
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:58,380
used in the the broader event that day

1033
00:43:01,730 --> 00:43:00,480
then that begins to fill in some of the

1034
00:43:04,430 --> 00:43:01,740
blanks and answer some of the questions

1035
00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:04,440
and make things seem a little bit more

1036
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:06,540
certain now certainly people are right

1037
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:09,780
to continue to question any piece of

1038
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:13,200
evidence or the whole scenario but uh it

1039
00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:17,460
just that it gets um a little bit more

1040
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:19,980
firm with each chapter you get a little

1041
00:43:23,089 --> 00:43:22,079
bit more evidence in it then at the end

1042
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:23,099
of course I try to tie everything

1043
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:24,839
together

1044
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,599
um in a comprehensive way but yeah I I

1045
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:29,760
started out I wanted it to all go away

1046
00:43:34,609 --> 00:43:32,640
and uh it wouldn't well when you do face

1047
00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:34,619
Skeptics and you tell them what your

1048
00:43:37,970 --> 00:43:36,300
book is about and they and they you know

1049
00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:37,980
they kind of step back and they say give

1050
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:39,720
me an example you know what would you

1051
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:43,200
cite as like a a quick and easy kind of

1052
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:45,300
uh one of the strongest examples that

1053
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,640
there's a Satanist element to 9 11 or a

1054
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:49,440
ritual element

1055
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:51,180
well see I've got a ready-made answer

1056
00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:52,640
for that

1057
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,339
Goods that well and it's it's that uh

1058
00:43:59,210 --> 00:43:58,079
and I'm not satisfing a question and

1059
00:44:02,329 --> 00:43:59,220
I'll come back and give you some

1060
00:44:04,190 --> 00:44:02,339
examples but the the the broader uh

1061
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:04,200
truth is that there's no one example

1062
00:44:07,790 --> 00:44:05,700
that's going to be entirely convincing

1063
00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:07,800
it's the cumulative weight of evidence

1064
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:11,640
uh and and that that's what convinced me

1065
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,880
and that's what allowed me to uh you

1066
00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:16,800
know really characterize the entire

1067
00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:19,500
event in in the way that I I have and

1068
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,240
and really talk about it

1069
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:24,000
uh in detailed terms and and you know

1070
00:44:30,829 --> 00:44:27,780
present this uh you know rather complete

1071
00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:30,839
occult script for the the various

1072
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:33,960
components of 911 from the what took

1073
00:44:40,609 --> 00:44:36,540
place in DC and New York and Shanksville

1074
00:44:44,569 --> 00:44:40,619
and uh White Horse Alaska the uh

1075
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:44,579
the it's the cumulative weight that uh

1076
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:47,940
is convincing and compelling uh as to

1077
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,520
the aspects that

1078
00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:52,800
um of the the entire day's events that

1079
00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:55,619
qualified in my mind is um you know a

1080
00:45:00,650 --> 00:44:58,440
luciferian or Satanic ritual uh they're

1081
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,660
they're uh

1082
00:45:05,210 --> 00:45:02,640
probably in every chapter there's

1083
00:45:07,309 --> 00:45:05,220
something that you can point to a very

1084
00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:07,319
powerful piece of evidence to say well

1085
00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:10,200
you know that that's exactly

1086
00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:13,020
uh what you would expect to find in

1087
00:45:18,770 --> 00:45:15,540
context of a a black mass or a Satanic

1088
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,780
ritual and and then those just layer one

1089
00:45:22,990 --> 00:45:20,880
on top of another

1090
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,000
um the

1091
00:45:28,750 --> 00:45:25,680
one example I'll give you

1092
00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:28,760
um in looking at the twin towers

1093
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:33,480
and again this is um you have to take

1094
00:45:40,370 --> 00:45:37,440
keep in mind the the broader script but

1095
00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:40,380
the you have the use of a very powerful

1096
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:41,880
fire symbol

1097
00:45:48,349 --> 00:45:45,599
uh in the Twin Towers themselves uh and

1098
00:45:51,230 --> 00:45:48,359
the the chief architectural element of

1099
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:51,240
the Twin Towers was the Trident you can

1100
00:45:56,210 --> 00:45:52,500
see it

1101
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:56,220
um in any you know just thousands and

1102
00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:57,960
thousands of photographs of the the Twin

1103
00:46:01,069 --> 00:46:00,180
Towers but the the exterior of the

1104
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:01,079
towers

1105
00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:04,319
were uh just uh this these repeated

1106
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,900
Trident symbols that uh cast in steel

1107
00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:08,400
that wrapped all the way around the

1108
00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:11,579
buildings and the Trident is uh a

1109
00:46:16,910 --> 00:46:14,940
well-known fire symbol it's the uh the

1110
00:46:19,069 --> 00:46:16,920
weapon of Satan if you will

1111
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:19,079
um you know Satan's not holding a pitch

1112
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,640
fork it's a trident and that's a

1113
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,480
classical fire symbol and so the uh the

1114
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:26,400
Twin Towers themselves were these

1115
00:46:32,329 --> 00:46:30,000
massive uh sacrificial vessel vessels

1116
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:32,339
that were marked were literally wrapped

1117
00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:36,660
in in a fire symbol and the uh in

1118
00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:39,420
context of all of the other evidence uh

1119
00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:43,380
from the goat to the uh the these

1120
00:46:50,569 --> 00:46:46,380
blatant human sacrifices to the the

1121
00:46:55,130 --> 00:46:50,579
numerology and the astrology

1122
00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:55,140
um that uh you find just scattered all

1123
00:47:02,930 --> 00:46:58,260
over the place on 9 11. it absolutely

1124
00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:02,940
has uh the over sounds of a gigantic

1125
00:47:09,730 --> 00:47:04,740
Satanic ritual now as we discussed

1126
00:47:14,270 --> 00:47:09,740
earlier it's not exclusively so and

1127
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:14,280
I I go into a short dialogue in the book

1128
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,220
about you know well okay are these all

1129
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,440
the people that were in the upper

1130
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:21,359
echelons and and responsible for

1131
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:22,920
orchestrating this event were they

1132
00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:26,220
hardcore true believing satanists and uh

1133
00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:28,680
there's I would have and do have some

1134
00:47:32,089 --> 00:47:30,540
question about that I think there are

1135
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:32,099
some that

1136
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:37,920
committed practicing luciferians and you

1137
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:40,619
know practitioners of the dark arts but

1138
00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:42,180
then I'm sure there's some that are just

1139
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:44,339
along for the ride and just you know go

1140
00:47:47,569 --> 00:47:45,960
along with all of that because it

1141
00:47:50,030 --> 00:47:47,579
produces the results like

1142
00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:50,040
oh they desire and the you know they

1143
00:47:56,329 --> 00:47:53,400
they get uh they're they're cut and so

1144
00:47:58,370 --> 00:47:56,339
they just go along with uh the the

1145
00:48:01,549 --> 00:47:58,380
overall

1146
00:48:02,930 --> 00:48:01,559
um plan because it benefits them but the

1147
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:02,940
uh yeah there's

1148
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:05,520
I was left with with no question that on

1149
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:06,720
some level

1150
00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:09,480
uh you know regardless of the the

1151
00:48:13,069 --> 00:48:12,300
attitude of the orchestrators of the

1152
00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:13,079
event

1153
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:14,819
towards it but on some level it was

1154
00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:18,720
absolutely a a massive loose ferian uh

1155
00:48:23,210 --> 00:48:20,220
ritual

1156
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:23,220
hey uh Ken I have a question about you

1157
00:48:27,290 --> 00:48:25,200
know talking about this the occult

1158
00:48:30,290 --> 00:48:27,300
symbolism

1159
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,300
and a lot of that doesn't seem readily

1160
00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:32,880
apparent you know to the average Joe you

1161
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:36,540
know unless you dig a bit deeper as you

1162
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:38,940
have but uh you know do you think this

1163
00:48:44,930 --> 00:48:41,460
occult symbolism at least it seems to me

1164
00:48:49,130 --> 00:48:44,940
it works can work on a subconscious uh

1165
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,140
level planning these images in the uh

1166
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:51,839
group mind and you know this uh brings

1167
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,480
me back to I'm not sure I don't know if

1168
00:48:59,930 --> 00:48:56,640
you're familiar with James Shelby Downer

1169
00:49:01,970 --> 00:48:59,940
in the research he did yeah I talked

1170
00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:01,980
about what he called the revelation of

1171
00:49:07,549 --> 00:49:04,619
the method and the making manifest of

1172
00:49:10,130 --> 00:49:07,559
all that's unseen that it's a subtle

1173
00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:10,140
processing

1174
00:49:16,190 --> 00:49:13,260
um and it seems you know like I said

1175
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:16,200
it's not these symbols aren't readily

1176
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:18,660
apparent but I think over the years

1177
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:22,079
they have became more uh mainstream

1178
00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:23,220
you're starting to see all this

1179
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:25,260
Illuminati uh

1180
00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:27,839
symbolism kind of a long-winded question

1181
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,839
there and I'm not sure what it is but uh

1182
00:49:36,049 --> 00:49:32,880
do you agree with that that it's used on

1183
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:36,059
a subconscious level

1184
00:49:42,290 --> 00:49:39,839
yeah I I very much do somewhat depends

1185
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:42,300
on you know your own personal belief or

1186
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:46,680
perspective as to uh and you know

1187
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,160
whether or not uh ritual magic whether

1188
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:52,800
white or black actually works and your

1189
00:49:58,849 --> 00:49:54,900
your attitudes and beliefs about the

1190
00:50:01,870 --> 00:49:58,859
Supernatural and uh but the there's you

1191
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:01,880
know good evidence that the uh

1192
00:50:08,329 --> 00:50:04,740
those that pulled off this this Mega

1193
00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:08,339
ritual are are very uh powerful

1194
00:50:14,690 --> 00:50:11,640
Believers in in this uh you know in

1195
00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:14,700
Black Magic and just like um

1196
00:50:19,970 --> 00:50:18,420
subliminal programming uh is is known to

1197
00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:19,980
be effective

1198
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:23,640
um the um and and of course there are

1199
00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:24,900
various

1200
00:50:30,650 --> 00:50:27,900
um the tactics within psychological

1201
00:50:33,290 --> 00:50:30,660
warfare that uh you know are proven

1202
00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:33,300
beyond a shadow of a doubt the uh

1203
00:50:40,670 --> 00:50:37,500
there's good evidence and that uh the

1204
00:50:43,309 --> 00:50:40,680
these the intended effect of these

1205
00:50:45,890 --> 00:50:43,319
symbols whether or not we recognize them

1206
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:45,900
activate within us on a subconscious

1207
00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:49,260
level various powers and forces and uh

1208
00:50:55,370 --> 00:50:53,339
you know even invoke about energies from

1209
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,380
the astral planes and come and do things

1210
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,880
to us that we just can't even begin to

1211
00:51:01,069 --> 00:50:58,319
imagine

1212
00:51:02,990 --> 00:51:01,079
um and that so that uh we're not just

1213
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:03,000
being exposed to

1214
00:51:08,290 --> 00:51:06,839
uh these symbols but they're actually

1215
00:51:10,750 --> 00:51:08,300
um operating

1216
00:51:12,770 --> 00:51:10,760
archetypal subconscious level and

1217
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:12,780
programming our Consciousness and

1218
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:14,700
influencing us at the level of spirit

1219
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:16,380
and being

1220
00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:19,920
uh and you know that's

1221
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:22,020
that's the part you know that you would

1222
00:51:25,730 --> 00:51:24,540
really hope was not true because of in

1223
00:51:28,190 --> 00:51:25,740
addition to everything else that they're

1224
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:28,200
doing if they're performing some Grand

1225
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,780
you know alchemical transmutation of

1226
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:32,160
human consciousness for their own

1227
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:34,980
purposes you know seeking to

1228
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:39,180
uh you know change the course of

1229
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:41,640
um human evolution and and the you know

1230
00:51:46,010 --> 00:51:43,200
the evolution of our Consciousness and

1231
00:51:47,630 --> 00:51:46,020
and warp it to their to their dark

1232
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:47,640
purposes then

1233
00:51:52,609 --> 00:51:50,400
you know if if there's truth to that and

1234
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,619
there's good evidence that they they

1235
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,200
have a strong belief that their their

1236
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:57,119
practices and techniques are effective

1237
00:52:02,809 --> 00:52:00,240
then uh that puts this into an entirely

1238
00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:02,819
different realm I mean if if we

1239
00:52:07,370 --> 00:52:04,920
entertain the idea of Supernatural

1240
00:52:10,730 --> 00:52:07,380
forces and Supernatural evil and okay

1241
00:52:12,349 --> 00:52:10,740
well you know did they have

1242
00:52:15,130 --> 00:52:12,359
um did the orchestrators of this 911

1243
00:52:19,609 --> 00:52:15,140
ritual have some type of aid from

1244
00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:19,619
non-human uh forces I did um you know

1245
00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:21,660
did were they performing some magic

1246
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:25,500
spell not just a ritual but weaving some

1247
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,720
kind of spell that took effect and is

1248
00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:30,240
still in effect and Unleashed demonic

1249
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:31,859
forces on the landscape I don't get into

1250
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:33,660
that in the book but those questions are

1251
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:36,240
raised and uh you know are certainly

1252
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,700
there and it depends on where you are in

1253
00:52:43,609 --> 00:52:41,520
your own thinking and

1254
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:43,619
um on all of those issues well that kind

1255
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:45,660
of brings me to my next question and

1256
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:48,420
maybe this will be in part two of your

1257
00:52:52,730 --> 00:52:51,119
uh but but uh you talk about the occult

1258
00:52:54,890 --> 00:52:52,740
script well

1259
00:52:57,710 --> 00:52:54,900
who who has written this script who's

1260
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:57,720
the author or authors and are they

1261
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:01,440
perhaps uh superhuman deities like

1262
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:04,559
Hermes Hermes who's influencing uh

1263
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,140
humans

1264
00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:10,079
who do you think is this a script that

1265
00:53:16,370 --> 00:53:13,859
was written long ago or is this a

1266
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,380
script that different scripts continue

1267
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,480
to be written that's kind of a big

1268
00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:19,920
question but

1269
00:53:24,049 --> 00:53:22,140
it is a big question and it

1270
00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:24,059
um I don't know that I have the answers

1271
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,420
I think that this ritual is

1272
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,480
um this this particular ritual

1273
00:53:36,589 --> 00:53:32,640
is um

1274
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:36,599
of a a type that has of course been um

1275
00:53:42,370 --> 00:53:39,240
employed before undertaking before and

1276
00:53:47,329 --> 00:53:42,380
you know you we've discussed a bit the

1277
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:47,339
JFK killing of the king uh ritual but

1278
00:53:53,809 --> 00:53:51,119
the um you know it is it's a grand

1279
00:53:56,210 --> 00:53:53,819
example of a type of ritual that has

1280
00:53:57,890 --> 00:53:56,220
been performed multiple times throughout

1281
00:54:01,069 --> 00:53:57,900
history

1282
00:54:07,069 --> 00:54:03,829
it's uh

1283
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:07,079
it's difficult to uh to really say

1284
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:08,400
um

1285
00:54:10,849 --> 00:54:09,900
and I forgot the second part of your

1286
00:54:15,410 --> 00:54:10,859
question

1287
00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:17,589
um I don't think we'll ever know because

1288
00:54:24,770 --> 00:54:22,920
whoever is at the top whoever is uh

1289
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,780
um pulling the strings at the highest

1290
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,400
levels I mean they're obviously able to

1291
00:54:32,589 --> 00:54:27,599
manipulate

1292
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:32,599
the defense and intelligence agencies of

1293
00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:34,800
various countries including the United

1294
00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:38,460
States uh with I wouldn't say with ease

1295
00:54:44,930 --> 00:54:41,460
but uh with

1296
00:54:46,910 --> 00:54:44,940
um total Effectiveness and you know they

1297
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:46,920
they they either

1298
00:54:53,450 --> 00:54:49,920
um that were either individuals within

1299
00:54:56,990 --> 00:54:53,460
the CIA and uh bod that were complicit

1300
00:54:59,450 --> 00:54:57,000
or that were manipulated in in ways that

1301
00:55:03,530 --> 00:54:59,460
uh that they couldn't conceive of but

1302
00:55:06,289 --> 00:55:03,540
the uh the I I don't really try to in

1303
00:55:09,410 --> 00:55:06,299
the book get into you know who done it

1304
00:55:11,150 --> 00:55:09,420
uh and and I do talk about some of the

1305
00:55:12,910 --> 00:55:11,160
logical suspects but that is such a

1306
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:12,920
broad issue and it's so

1307
00:55:18,410 --> 00:55:15,960
uh it's so hard to come up with any real

1308
00:55:20,410 --> 00:55:18,420
answers that I for the most part left it

1309
00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:20,420
alone I mean the stereotypical answer

1310
00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:23,220
that you would probably give to that

1311
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,900
question as well as the Illuminati well

1312
00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:26,880
that doesn't tell you anything right um

1313
00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:30,180
but I mean there are various uh

1314
00:55:34,490 --> 00:55:32,760
think tanks and and organizations and

1315
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:34,500
families that are associated with these

1316
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,460
types of

1317
00:55:39,650 --> 00:55:37,440
uh events and you you know you hear all

1318
00:55:41,329 --> 00:55:39,660
about them on Alex Jones and

1319
00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:41,339
um you know there's lots of people have

1320
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:44,520
written about uh the the Illuminati and

1321
00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:47,700
you know the club of Rome and the

1322
00:55:54,170 --> 00:55:50,760
um Bilderberg Group and and so forth but

1323
00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:54,180
I mean those those wouldn't be the the

1324
00:55:59,809 --> 00:55:56,940
types of uh entities or agencies that

1325
00:56:02,510 --> 00:55:59,819
would be you know writing this the

1326
00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:02,520
script for for this event or we're at

1327
00:56:08,329 --> 00:56:05,880
the the top of the the pyramid and so I

1328
00:56:11,809 --> 00:56:08,339
don't think we'll ever know I have any

1329
00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:11,819
clue who the the key actors were

1330
00:56:16,849 --> 00:56:15,000
um you all you can really do is is infer

1331
00:56:18,349 --> 00:56:16,859
from the evidence who would have had to

1332
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:18,359
have been involved or which agencies

1333
00:56:23,390 --> 00:56:20,160
would have had to have been either

1334
00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:23,400
complicit or duped and then you know if

1335
00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:25,740
if you can follow the the trail back

1336
00:56:29,710 --> 00:56:28,020
Upstream further from that then you've

1337
00:56:32,809 --> 00:56:29,720
done a hell of a lot of research because

1338
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:32,819
uh it they they have purposely insulated

1339
00:56:37,849 --> 00:56:34,799
themselves and

1340
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:37,859
the uh not to be pessimistic but I think

1341
00:56:41,569 --> 00:56:39,900
even if you can get a clue as to who was

1342
00:56:44,089 --> 00:56:41,579
involved you could not touch them

1343
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:44,099
there's not a a Judicial body on the

1344
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,119
planet including the international

1345
00:56:49,010 --> 00:56:47,040
courts that could hold these people

1346
00:56:51,289 --> 00:56:49,020
accountable they own everything they own

1347
00:56:53,450 --> 00:56:51,299
I mean right these are the people that

1348
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:53,460
own the International Banks the

1349
00:56:58,450 --> 00:56:57,599
multinational corporations they uh you

1350
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,460
know

1351
00:57:02,809 --> 00:57:00,720
who are you going to send to arrest them

1352
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:02,819
even if you could identify them and and

1353
00:57:06,770 --> 00:57:05,400
who exactly you know what what

1354
00:57:09,770 --> 00:57:06,780
institution are you going to try them

1355
00:57:11,329 --> 00:57:09,780
within so yeah it is tough because you

1356
00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:11,339
can look at the Bush family and the

1357
00:57:14,329 --> 00:57:12,780
skull and bones in their little group

1358
00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:14,339
and you can be like oh you know they're

1359
00:57:17,329 --> 00:57:15,900
they're pretty high up there but it's

1360
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:17,339
like you don't you don't know there

1361
00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:19,500
could be 10 levels above them they could

1362
00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:21,240
be working for people that they fear in

1363
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,220
ways that would make you laugh you know

1364
00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:24,960
it's it's kind of like I say about

1365
00:57:28,730 --> 00:57:26,940
Freemasons just to say people say oh you

1366
00:57:30,109 --> 00:57:28,740
know 33 degree is the highest degree I'm

1367
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,119
like that may be the highest degree

1368
00:57:34,130 --> 00:57:32,400
people talk about you know that could

1369
00:57:36,650 --> 00:57:34,140
there could be a level above that that

1370
00:57:38,990 --> 00:57:36,660
no no one who's reached that level would

1371
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:39,000
would ever talk you know it could be it

1372
00:57:42,829 --> 00:57:41,220
could go to 100 but after 33 that's when

1373
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,839
they really separate the wheat from the

1374
00:57:46,490 --> 00:57:44,400
chaff you know you never you never

1375
00:57:48,890 --> 00:57:46,500
really know it's only what comes out but

1376
00:57:51,530 --> 00:57:48,900
you're entirely right about that it is a

1377
00:57:53,089 --> 00:57:51,540
crazy thing and I mean uh but before we

1378
00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:53,099
go I really do want to spend some time

1379
00:57:57,049 --> 00:57:55,020
on your uh

1380
00:57:59,870 --> 00:57:57,059
on your ebook because it brings it into

1381
00:58:02,750 --> 00:57:59,880
more current events the same line of of

1382
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,760
thinking but uh you've got this ebook on

1383
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,559
your website it is free I think it's a

1384
00:58:07,970 --> 00:58:06,000
must read for anybody who's listening

1385
00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:07,980
it's called a warning Aurora Sandy Hook

1386
00:58:12,170 --> 00:58:09,480
and the valley of Ashes can you tell us

1387
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,180
a bit about this Trilogy of attacks that

1388
00:58:16,609 --> 00:58:14,640
you theorize on and and some and and

1389
00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:16,619
since we're so close to May 10th which

1390
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,500
is a big uh uh potentially a big date in

1391
00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:22,559
in this line of thinking

1392
00:58:28,430 --> 00:58:26,280
yeah the one thing about the uh study

1393
00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:28,440
and Analysis of 9 11 and similar events

1394
00:58:32,990 --> 00:58:30,540
is that you can begin to try to predict

1395
00:58:35,569 --> 00:58:33,000
what they might do when they might do it

1396
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:35,579
in the future what you know when you

1397
00:58:42,530 --> 00:58:37,920
understand that these false flag events

1398
00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:42,540
uh have in most instances some type of

1399
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,280
occult component then you then you can

1400
00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:46,319
start to look for the occult

1401
00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:48,780
architecture and then then that could

1402
00:58:52,490 --> 00:58:51,000
potentially help you nail down dates and

1403
00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:52,500
locations and that type of thing I mean

1404
00:58:56,930 --> 00:58:55,260
it's it's really uh

1405
00:58:58,130 --> 00:58:56,940
you wouldn't want to spend your life on

1406
00:59:00,829 --> 00:58:58,140
it you could waste a whole lot of time

1407
00:59:03,410 --> 00:59:00,839
on it but the there have been a number

1408
00:59:06,049 --> 00:59:03,420
of things that have jumped out at me

1409
00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:06,059
um connected to the Aurora Colorado

1410
00:59:10,010 --> 00:59:09,180
shooting and the the Sandy Hook there's

1411
00:59:13,490 --> 00:59:10,020
um

1412
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,500
an astrological connection between the

1413
00:59:20,270 --> 00:59:15,839
two dealing with the uh the Crescent

1414
00:59:23,329 --> 00:59:20,280
Moon and their um

1415
00:59:25,789 --> 00:59:23,339
you know the these are I guess our

1416
00:59:28,569 --> 00:59:25,799
controllers are involved in the

1417
00:59:33,650 --> 00:59:28,579
Enterprise of blurring the line between

1418
00:59:38,569 --> 00:59:33,660
uh reality and fantasy and so that's

1419
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:38,579
part of why they uh leave Clues and

1420
00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:41,520
hints uh specifically in this instance

1421
00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:45,240
in in Batman The Dark Knight Rises and

1422
00:59:50,809 --> 00:59:48,599
other films they're they're you know

1423
00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:50,819
things are manifesting on Celluloid that

1424
00:59:55,789 --> 00:59:53,220
then turn out to have bearing in in our

1425
00:59:58,010 --> 00:59:55,799
real world and it's it's this is a prime

1426
00:59:59,450 --> 00:59:58,020
example of those artificial artificially

1427
01:00:00,890 --> 00:59:59,460
engineered synchronicities we were

1428
01:00:04,370 --> 01:00:00,900
discussing earlier

1429
01:00:08,270 --> 01:00:04,380
but uh the uh without getting into too

1430
01:00:09,650 --> 01:00:08,280
much to say oh the uh there's a a

1431
01:00:11,450 --> 01:00:09,660
pattern

1432
01:00:15,410 --> 01:00:11,460
um there are connections between Aurora

1433
01:00:19,309 --> 01:00:15,420
and Sandy Hook that uh are fact and then

1434
01:00:22,730 --> 01:00:19,319
if you extrapolate out one more uh event

1435
01:00:26,089 --> 01:00:22,740
assuming that it's a trifecta uh there's

1436
01:00:28,010 --> 01:00:26,099
a scenario that uh really really is

1437
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:28,020
compelling and

1438
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:31,920
um involving yet another uh major

1439
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,280
Hollywood production that was uh

1440
01:00:40,730 --> 01:00:37,680
originally scheduled for release on

1441
01:00:44,089 --> 01:00:40,740
December 25th 2012 but was moved to May

1442
01:00:46,670 --> 01:00:44,099
10th and uh the May 10th is the uh the

1443
01:00:49,690 --> 01:00:46,680
date in question and it's um

1444
01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:49,700
part of uh what I call a

1445
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,710
I think Trifecta is the the term that I

1446
01:01:03,609 --> 01:00:59,760
used but the uh

1447
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:03,619
um the 911 had a strong astrological

1448
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:07,920
component and the uh pin to the occult

1449
01:01:11,329 --> 01:01:09,839
calendar and then some there were some

1450
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:11,339
other

1451
01:01:19,549 --> 01:01:15,440
um that the date was significant itself

1452
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:19,559
it had connections to Thoth which is uh

1453
01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:22,799
the the Egyptian

1454
01:01:27,890 --> 01:01:25,859
um version of Hermes if you will and so

1455
01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:27,900
that you've got that that continuity

1456
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:29,700
there between the Hermes and Thoth and

1457
01:01:36,250 --> 01:01:32,400
without jumping back into 911 too much

1458
01:01:38,329 --> 01:01:36,260
the um there were other

1459
01:01:41,809 --> 01:01:38,339
sort of points of astrological

1460
01:01:43,549 --> 01:01:41,819
significance on 911 that I detail uh in

1461
01:01:47,210 --> 01:01:43,559
in one of the chapters in the book and

1462
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:47,220
the uh the framework for this Aurora

1463
01:01:52,849 --> 01:01:48,799
Sandy Hook

1464
01:01:55,730 --> 01:01:52,859
May 10th event is uh is built on that

1465
01:01:57,950 --> 01:01:55,740
same sort of documented Arc uh

1466
01:01:58,670 --> 01:01:57,960
astrological

1467
01:02:02,750 --> 01:01:58,680
um

1468
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:02,760
a framework if you will it uh it's very

1469
01:02:08,029 --> 01:02:05,520
uh reminiscent of what was done on 9 11

1470
01:02:10,250 --> 01:02:08,039
but in this instance you've got three

1471
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:10,260
events on three separate dates that are

1472
01:02:16,910 --> 01:02:15,119
connected through a uh uh a lunar ritual

1473
01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:16,920
and uh

1474
01:02:23,930 --> 01:02:22,260
uh again it's uh the there you start

1475
01:02:25,450 --> 01:02:23,940
stacking up the evidence and looking at

1476
01:02:27,529 --> 01:02:25,460
the points and creating the connections

1477
01:02:31,309 --> 01:02:27,539
and you just

1478
01:02:34,370 --> 01:02:31,319
are left with some conclusions that uh

1479
01:02:37,789 --> 01:02:34,380
you'd just rather not consider but we've

1480
01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:37,799
seen it before and the uh the movie in

1481
01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:41,809
um well let's give people let's give

1482
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:43,380
people just a little bit of I mean I

1483
01:02:46,190 --> 01:02:44,880
know people who listen to this show are

1484
01:02:47,329 --> 01:02:46,200
familiar I've covered it a couple of

1485
01:02:49,609 --> 01:02:47,339
times I've talked about the Dark Knight

1486
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,619
and The Hunger Games similarities I mean

1487
01:02:53,569 --> 01:02:51,359
obviously

1488
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:53,579
um you know Sandy Hook shows up on the

1489
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:55,740
map in the dark night that's probably

1490
01:03:02,089 --> 01:02:59,280
the creepiest and most aggressive uh bit

1491
01:03:04,370 --> 01:03:02,099
of foreshadowing that you could even do

1492
01:03:05,870 --> 01:03:04,380
um obviously there's a lot of weird

1493
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:05,880
stuff with James Holmes and people

1494
01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:07,440
saying both of these cases people say

1495
01:03:11,170 --> 01:03:09,059
they've seen multiple Shooters and then

1496
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:11,180
you got uh and Sandy Hook you also have

1497
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:14,400
uh the the coroner his name was Carver

1498
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:16,079
that's just odd I mean we had Mark

1499
01:03:20,510 --> 01:03:18,480
weiner the politician showing his wiener

1500
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:20,520
we have Bernie Madoff who's made off

1501
01:03:24,170 --> 01:03:22,799
with all your money like you know it all

1502
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:24,180
seems fake

1503
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:26,400
and so that's another the other weird

1504
01:03:30,349 --> 01:03:28,079
thing is the Sandy Hook actors you know

1505
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,359
you got that uh that guy Robbie Parker

1506
01:03:34,010 --> 01:03:32,160
he's laughing before he starts talking

1507
01:03:35,690 --> 01:03:34,020
about his dead daughter

1508
01:03:37,309 --> 01:03:35,700
um these are very weird and I did I

1509
01:03:39,410 --> 01:03:37,319
missed that detail that this movie was

1510
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:39,420
originally supposed to come out on

1511
01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:41,280
December 25th because you had a big

1512
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:43,440
prediction about that day obviously

1513
01:03:47,089 --> 01:03:45,359
we're past there but I mean they moved

1514
01:03:48,589 --> 01:03:47,099
the state and that would have also fit

1515
01:03:50,270 --> 01:03:48,599
with the three movies or those three

1516
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:50,280
movies all kind of being like a couple

1517
01:03:54,770 --> 01:03:52,559
of months apart but if they move this to

1518
01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:54,780
May 10th there are some reasons that you

1519
01:03:58,690 --> 01:03:56,579
talk about but I just wanted to give

1520
01:04:01,490 --> 01:03:58,700
that little bit that we're talking about

1521
01:04:02,690 --> 01:04:01,500
uh oh well in terms of Sandy Hook the

1522
01:04:05,329 --> 01:04:02,700
movie we're talking about is Hunger

1523
01:04:07,309 --> 01:04:05,339
Games you know uh that's the connection

1524
01:04:10,430 --> 01:04:07,319
there because the author of who wrote

1525
01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:10,440
The Hunger Games is from Aurora uh that

1526
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:13,260
that it's a story of uh killing of kids

1527
01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:15,359
you know that's what the whole story is

1528
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:17,640
about the whole trilogy uh you show the

1529
01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:20,400
ring of fire is their symbol that symbol

1530
01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:22,940
also showed up and part of the

1531
01:04:27,529 --> 01:04:25,440
Olympic ceremonies which was just full

1532
01:04:30,410 --> 01:04:27,539
of symbolism it was It was kind of gross

1533
01:04:32,029 --> 01:04:30,420
it was kind of you know insulting

1534
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:32,039
um but I just wanted to give that little

1535
01:04:35,630 --> 01:04:33,359
bit of information so we're talking

1536
01:04:38,450 --> 01:04:35,640
about the Dark Knight we're talking

1537
01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:38,460
about The Hunger Games and then this

1538
01:04:45,230 --> 01:04:41,520
third movie that might complete this

1539
01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:45,240
Trilogy of the uh you know ceremony of

1540
01:04:48,890 --> 01:04:47,160
the Crescent Moon what's that movie

1541
01:04:52,130 --> 01:04:48,900
going to be

1542
01:04:54,049 --> 01:04:52,140
well it's the Great Gatsby and it fits

1543
01:04:57,710 --> 01:04:54,059
in perfectly uh it's of course a

1544
01:05:01,130 --> 01:04:57,720
different genre but in terms of tone and

1545
01:05:02,569 --> 01:05:01,140
theme uh and the uh you know the

1546
01:05:06,890 --> 01:05:02,579
underlying

1547
01:05:10,010 --> 01:05:06,900
psychology It just fits right in with

1548
01:05:14,529 --> 01:05:10,020
the The Dark Knight and The Hunger Games

1549
01:05:17,029 --> 01:05:14,539
which was by the way uh released on a

1550
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:17,039
evening that was a crescent moon and

1551
01:05:21,770 --> 01:05:20,160
that uh even though the you know of

1552
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:21,780
course the tie-in there is that the

1553
01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:23,520
author of The Hunger Games just happens

1554
01:05:27,170 --> 01:05:25,200
to live in Sandy Hook but you've got

1555
01:05:29,569 --> 01:05:27,180
this again this interplay between

1556
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:29,579
reality and fantasy and that's what

1557
01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:31,020
they're they're trying to blur the lines

1558
01:05:37,309 --> 01:05:34,140
between reality and fantasy and that's a

1559
01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:37,319
key element in theme in The Great Gatsby

1560
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:39,960
and the uh

1561
01:05:46,910 --> 01:05:43,079
so you've got like you said it is really

1562
01:05:50,569 --> 01:05:46,920
sort of this uh Trinity of movies with a

1563
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:50,579
very similar you know sub themes and and

1564
01:05:58,910 --> 01:05:55,740
uh messages that uh in there and on each

1565
01:06:01,309 --> 01:05:58,920
instance they've used film to either

1566
01:06:03,950 --> 01:06:01,319
foreshadow reality or you know somehow

1567
01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:03,960
that it's mixed in there so combined

1568
01:06:08,569 --> 01:06:06,180
with all the other evidence and the sort

1569
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:08,579
of the the astrology of it

1570
01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:11,280
um I present some possibilities for what

1571
01:06:18,529 --> 01:06:15,839
might happen uh in or on May 10th and

1572
01:06:21,650 --> 01:06:18,539
it's it's keyed to one of the locations

1573
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:21,660
in the book and that's the uh uh the

1574
01:06:27,289 --> 01:06:24,000
area of Flushing New York of course you

1575
01:06:29,450 --> 01:06:27,299
get the that neat little toilet

1576
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,460
reference there flushing and so who

1577
01:06:35,450 --> 01:06:31,200
knows if that has anything to do with it

1578
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:35,460
but it's the was it uh at the time that

1579
01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:37,440
uh Gatsby

1580
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:38,180
um

1581
01:06:42,529 --> 01:06:40,559
was written

1582
01:06:44,329 --> 01:06:42,539
um was known as this area was known as

1583
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,339
the the Valley of the ashes and it's a

1584
01:06:49,609 --> 01:06:47,039
real location that you can identify that

1585
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:49,619
uh Fitzgerald worked into the book

1586
01:06:54,650 --> 01:06:52,799
and there's a sports Stadium located on

1587
01:06:58,910 --> 01:06:54,660
that very property

1588
01:07:01,549 --> 01:06:58,920
uh and of course in the uh Batman film

1589
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:01,559
The they've got a Mass Attack on uh

1590
01:07:05,329 --> 01:07:03,599
Sports stadium so there's just lots of

1591
01:07:06,589 --> 01:07:05,339
interesting possibilities again it's you

1592
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:06,599
can't say with any certainty what's

1593
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:09,119
going to happen but uh I thought this

1594
01:07:14,029 --> 01:07:11,760
was interesting enough with enough a

1595
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,039
sort of four ship possible foreshadowing

1596
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:15,839
and some really compelling connections

1597
01:07:22,130 --> 01:07:19,440
that I wanted to uh uh present it and

1598
01:07:24,529 --> 01:07:22,140
that place is sorry but that place is

1599
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,539
also on the map in the Dark Knight right

1600
01:07:29,089 --> 01:07:26,640
I mean it says Target one Sandy Hook and

1601
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:29,099
there is a Target too

1602
01:07:34,510 --> 01:07:33,359
yeah um that it was funny when I first

1603
01:07:37,309 --> 01:07:34,520
uh

1604
01:07:39,410 --> 01:07:37,319
thought about I guess I read online

1605
01:07:42,829 --> 01:07:39,420
somebody was talking about

1606
01:07:44,210 --> 01:07:42,839
um you know the uh Strike Zone two and

1607
01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:44,220
they thought they'd figured out where

1608
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,780
strikes on two was and I thought they're

1609
01:07:48,829 --> 01:07:47,039
not going to do that again that's too

1610
01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:48,839
predictable that's ridiculous I just

1611
01:07:54,130 --> 01:07:51,599
forgot about it and so I went through

1612
01:07:57,230 --> 01:07:54,140
this exercise and you know came down and

1613
01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:57,240
uh developed the scenario for an attack

1614
01:08:01,609 --> 01:08:00,299
on this uh support stadium and and you

1615
01:08:03,950 --> 01:08:01,619
know that

1616
01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:03,960
um had that outlined pretty well and

1617
01:08:09,770 --> 01:08:05,280
then I just happened to look back at

1618
01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:09,780
that map uh if you uh accept the math of

1619
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:12,480
mouth of Gotham is based on a map of New

1620
01:08:16,849 --> 01:08:14,400
York and you look physically where it's

1621
01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:16,859
located uh and you kind of overlay the

1622
01:08:25,550 --> 01:08:21,420
two uh this location is uh is exactly

1623
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:25,560
where Strike Zone two is on that uh map

1624
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:29,040
that was uh in the Batman's Dark Knight

1625
01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:32,400
Rises and my jaws hit the floor when I

1626
01:08:35,870 --> 01:08:33,900
saw that and that that's not definitive

1627
01:08:37,309 --> 01:08:35,880
doesn't mean it's an absolute

1628
01:08:38,809 --> 01:08:37,319
um given that something's going to

1629
01:08:41,570 --> 01:08:38,819
happen there but it's really sort of

1630
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:41,580
spooky uh you know people are are

1631
01:08:47,149 --> 01:08:44,400
already on edge you had uh you know some

1632
01:08:49,329 --> 01:08:47,159
guy claimed he'd

1633
01:08:51,950 --> 01:08:49,339
figured out

1634
01:08:54,530 --> 01:08:51,960
where the next attack was going to be

1635
01:08:56,450 --> 01:08:54,540
and they the uh

1636
01:08:59,209 --> 01:08:56,460
somebody sent a link to the state police

1637
01:09:01,010 --> 01:08:59,219
next thing you know every school in the

1638
01:09:02,930 --> 01:09:01,020
county was closed down for a day while

1639
01:09:04,249 --> 01:09:02,940
they briefed the teachers and the

1640
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,259
administrators

1641
01:09:08,329 --> 01:09:06,719
and I I mentioned I just have a short

1642
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:08,339
paragraph on that in the book but that's

1643
01:09:15,050 --> 01:09:11,040
the environment we're operating in now

1644
01:09:17,329 --> 01:09:15,060
where uh someone can uh

1645
01:09:19,010 --> 01:09:17,339
just really based on loose evidence sort

1646
01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:19,020
of throw a theory out there and the next

1647
01:09:24,349 --> 01:09:20,699
thing you know you've got the sheriff

1648
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:24,359
the state police the chief of police uh

1649
01:09:27,950 --> 01:09:26,400
closing school down for a day and and uh

1650
01:09:30,890 --> 01:09:27,960
pulling all the administrators together

1651
01:09:32,450 --> 01:09:30,900
to to you know give them a briefing on

1652
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:32,460
the issue I mean it's

1653
01:09:37,010 --> 01:09:33,900
it's a

1654
01:09:39,410 --> 01:09:37,020
again the the line between fantasy and

1655
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,420
reality has been blurred it continues to

1656
01:09:44,749 --> 01:09:42,480
be blurred and uh so you know we don't

1657
01:09:47,390 --> 01:09:44,759
know what sort of creative garbage they

1658
01:09:50,090 --> 01:09:47,400
have planned for us next but uh if it's

1659
01:09:53,530 --> 01:09:50,100
if it's not this uh

1660
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:53,540
a ring of fire uh triple Crescent Moon

1661
01:09:59,330 --> 01:09:56,159
uh ritual then it'll be something else

1662
01:10:01,070 --> 01:09:59,340
just as as gruesome so right and I've

1663
01:10:02,570 --> 01:10:01,080
tried to do that before in the past I've

1664
01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:02,580
tried to take what I know from the

1665
01:10:06,350 --> 01:10:04,860
conspiracy world and try to uh predict

1666
01:10:09,709 --> 01:10:06,360
some events but it's important to note

1667
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:09,719
like this is not Ken's premonition he he

1668
01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:12,360
didn't uh you know meditate on this and

1669
01:10:16,610 --> 01:10:14,340
come up with it out of The Ether I mean

1670
01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:16,620
this is just looking at the way they

1671
01:10:20,689 --> 01:10:18,600
operate and try and finding some

1672
01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:20,699
connections that could be made and the

1673
01:10:26,330 --> 01:10:23,760
importance of it is that if something

1674
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:26,340
does happen on May 10th in connection to

1675
01:10:31,370 --> 01:10:28,860
the Great Gatsby it it should validate

1676
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:31,380
for The Listener that these are not

1677
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:33,600
random events these if you had any doubt

1678
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,239
already that they I mean that they were

1679
01:10:39,950 --> 01:10:38,640
satanic and that they were pre-planned I

1680
01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:39,960
mean this should

1681
01:10:44,689 --> 01:10:42,600
this should do it for you you know and I

1682
01:10:46,189 --> 01:10:44,699
think it's a really interesting concept

1683
01:10:48,350 --> 01:10:46,199
and when you look at that that Stadium

1684
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:48,360
you said there's a stadium there on that

1685
01:10:51,890 --> 01:10:50,520
ground it's in uh Pittsburgh I believe

1686
01:11:00,250 --> 01:10:51,900
or is it isn't is it the Pittsburgh

1687
01:11:05,630 --> 01:11:03,470
this is City Field in located in in

1688
01:11:07,250 --> 01:11:05,640
Flushing Meadows Park and Flushing New

1689
01:11:09,229 --> 01:11:07,260
York and are then they're playing

1690
01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:09,239
Pittsburgh on that day is that was that

1691
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,460
the connection yeah okay that's that's

1692
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:13,679
crazy they're that that you know it's in

1693
01:11:16,610 --> 01:11:14,580
the movie they use the Pittsburgh

1694
01:11:18,590 --> 01:11:16,620
stadium Pittsburgh is playing them on

1695
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:18,600
that day and that's the day The Great

1696
01:11:22,729 --> 01:11:20,460
Gatsby comes out is that the day the

1697
01:11:25,209 --> 01:11:22,739
release date yeah it is kind of crazy

1698
01:11:29,810 --> 01:11:25,219
and and to top it off icing on the cake

1699
01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:29,820
uh Citi Field as Citibank uh the

1700
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:32,340
Citibank symbol above the eye what are

1701
01:11:36,110 --> 01:11:33,600
we looking at above the eye on the City

1702
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,120
Bank symbol a beautiful red crescent

1703
01:11:41,330 --> 01:11:37,760
boom

1704
01:11:42,890 --> 01:11:41,340
I mean I I read I read that that piece I

1705
01:11:45,229 --> 01:11:42,900
thought it was amazing I think it's 22

1706
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,239
Pages anybody should go and read it you

1707
01:11:48,649 --> 01:11:47,280
got now until May 10th before they shut

1708
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:48,659
off the internet and throw us on the

1709
01:11:51,649 --> 01:11:50,159
FEMA camps

1710
01:11:53,450 --> 01:11:51,659
um I just think it's it's really

1711
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:53,460
interesting I love that predictive kind

1712
01:11:57,290 --> 01:11:55,440
of stuff as long as it's not I'm not

1713
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:57,300
really into the whole uh you know

1714
01:12:01,490 --> 01:11:59,280
psychic predictions but I do like the

1715
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:01,500
concrete you know kind of Sherlock

1716
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:03,360
Holmes type of

1717
01:12:08,209 --> 01:12:06,239
predictive events but yeah it's crazy

1718
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:08,219
the other there was a

1719
01:12:11,810 --> 01:12:10,020
there was something else about it that

1720
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:11,820
was also really weird

1721
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:13,440
there's a lot of things that you wrote

1722
01:12:16,189 --> 01:12:14,880
there but there was another thing I was

1723
01:12:18,649 --> 01:12:16,199
going to point out

1724
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:18,659
oh uh that's right

1725
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:20,880
the the production designer of the Dark

1726
01:12:23,390 --> 01:12:22,080
Knight because I've wondered about this

1727
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:23,400
I'm like The Dark Knight has all this

1728
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:25,920
weird [\h__\h] in it it even has we talked

1729
01:12:30,410 --> 01:12:28,560
to Sandy Hook It even has on uh

1730
01:12:32,450 --> 01:12:30,420
there's when it has a view of the

1731
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:32,460
skyline of the city one of the city one

1732
01:12:36,169 --> 01:12:34,560
of the buildings says Aurora on it

1733
01:12:38,689 --> 01:12:36,179
really big so you got Sandy Hook and

1734
01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:38,699
Aurora and yeah I'm like how did all

1735
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,020
this [\h__\h] get in the Dark Knight because

1736
01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:42,719
there's also a lot of ties to the old uh

1737
01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:45,060
comic from 1985 where a guy with red

1738
01:12:48,649 --> 01:12:46,920
hair goes into a theater and shoots

1739
01:12:50,209 --> 01:12:48,659
people and then John Holmes dyes his

1740
01:12:53,330 --> 01:12:50,219
hair red and then when the stadium

1741
01:12:55,310 --> 01:12:53,340
collapses they focus on the player with

1742
01:12:57,410 --> 01:12:55,320
85 on his jersey like it's it's

1743
01:12:59,630 --> 01:12:57,420
ridiculously focused I mean I'm not just

1744
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:59,640
drawing you know Grassman straws here

1745
01:13:03,770 --> 01:13:01,199
it's it's the focal point of the shot

1746
01:13:05,630 --> 01:13:03,780
and uh yeah I'm like how'd all this [\h__\h]

1747
01:13:07,729 --> 01:13:05,640
get in the dark night but the production

1748
01:13:10,370 --> 01:13:07,739
manager or the production designer of

1749
01:13:13,970 --> 01:13:10,380
the Dark Knight is Nathan Crowley who is

1750
01:13:16,850 --> 01:13:13,980
uh has relation to Aleister Crowley I

1751
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:16,860
think his great grandson I believe yeah

1752
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,440
and then then let's say there was

1753
01:13:25,729 --> 01:13:21,120
I was like the

1754
01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:25,739
the maybe the prop manager was from

1755
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:28,440
Sandy Hook and the uh

1756
01:13:33,709 --> 01:13:31,440
uh set designer or the prop designer was

1757
01:13:36,649 --> 01:13:33,719
from uh what you know is Aleister

1758
01:13:40,450 --> 01:13:36,659
Crowley's great grandson I mean again

1759
01:13:43,850 --> 01:13:40,460
these these uh

1760
01:13:46,729 --> 01:13:43,860
absurd linkages and just you know

1761
01:13:48,890 --> 01:13:46,739
dripping with uh you know occult

1762
01:13:51,709 --> 01:13:48,900
significance and and sort of smacking of

1763
01:13:54,410 --> 01:13:51,719
and just outright mockery just like you

1764
01:13:56,209 --> 01:13:54,420
found throughout 9 11 and you get with

1765
01:13:58,370 --> 01:13:56,219
uh you know their Aurora Colorado

1766
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:58,380
shooting I think you've got that that's

1767
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:00,719
that here with um

1768
01:14:08,990 --> 01:14:05,760
just in in Spades it just they um

1769
01:14:12,350 --> 01:14:09,000
they they might be incredibly Twisted

1770
01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:12,360
but they are certainly fond of uh

1771
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:15,179
um you know using that their dark humor

1772
01:14:18,830 --> 01:14:16,560
they uh

1773
01:14:23,450 --> 01:14:18,840
enjoy a good laugh apparently at our

1774
01:14:25,970 --> 01:14:23,460
expense my dad man yeah do you do you

1775
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,980
think the the reason for these well you

1776
01:14:29,330 --> 01:14:27,360
actually write in the book you say that

1777
01:14:31,250 --> 01:14:29,340
occultists believe that numbers contain

1778
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:31,260
inherent spiritual and temporal power

1779
01:14:34,910 --> 01:14:33,120
and that to launch a plan without

1780
01:14:36,890 --> 01:14:34,920
incorporating the proper occult power

1781
01:14:39,410 --> 01:14:36,900
numbers could Doom the plan to failure

1782
01:14:41,330 --> 01:14:39,420
is that the reason for all this

1783
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:41,340
numerical coincidence is just boil down

1784
01:14:44,209 --> 01:14:42,960
to that statement or is there more to it

1785
01:14:45,890 --> 01:14:44,219
do you think this is just like a

1786
01:14:49,130 --> 01:14:45,900
Superstition that they hold or do you

1787
01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:49,140
think there's like real energy like some

1788
01:14:52,970 --> 01:14:51,960
type of uh real tools that are natural

1789
01:14:55,610 --> 01:14:52,980
to the Earth that we just don't

1790
01:14:59,810 --> 01:14:58,790
I I think probably the the latter I

1791
01:15:00,770 --> 01:14:59,820
would

1792
01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:00,780
um

1793
01:15:04,970 --> 01:15:03,120
and it it if you're just thinking about

1794
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:04,980
say the number 11 and you're just

1795
01:15:10,669 --> 01:15:08,159
thinking about that being used on the

1796
01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:10,679
airplane and okay what real power could

1797
01:15:14,090 --> 01:15:11,940
that have I mean why would that really

1798
01:15:15,709 --> 01:15:14,100
make a difference okay maybe it creates

1799
01:15:17,570 --> 01:15:15,719
a reference to Alistair Crowley and

1800
01:15:19,490 --> 01:15:17,580
maybe it's a number of magic but what

1801
01:15:22,010 --> 01:15:19,500
differences that really make well

1802
01:15:24,050 --> 01:15:22,020
uh you could argue it wouldn't make a

1803
01:15:26,090 --> 01:15:24,060
lot of difference and maybe there's in

1804
01:15:28,729 --> 01:15:26,100
addition to everything else that they do

1805
01:15:31,729 --> 01:15:28,739
that that might be

1806
01:15:33,470 --> 01:15:31,739
um legitimate might have some sort of uh

1807
01:15:35,149 --> 01:15:33,480
ritualistic effect and might actually

1808
01:15:38,030 --> 01:15:35,159
produce some sort of Supernatural effect

1809
01:15:39,649 --> 01:15:38,040
maybe that's not maybe that is just sort

1810
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,659
of carryover superstition and doesn't do

1811
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,480
anything uh you know and I tended to

1812
01:15:48,649 --> 01:15:44,159
think that for a while but then as you

1813
01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:48,659
as you understand numbers as symbols and

1814
01:15:55,370 --> 01:15:51,960
then uh and and put them

1815
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,380
um and then think about the the impact

1816
01:16:01,910 --> 01:15:58,080
of symbols on the subconscious and then

1817
01:16:04,010 --> 01:16:01,920
you you uh put the number in combination

1818
01:16:04,970 --> 01:16:04,020
with the symbols and then with all the

1819
01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:04,980
other things that we don't understand

1820
01:16:12,169 --> 01:16:07,800
about how magical acts work and the

1821
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:12,179
incantations and the the um

1822
01:16:17,630 --> 01:16:15,120
you know just outright sorcery you know

1823
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:17,640
we don't really know we probably aren't

1824
01:16:21,169 --> 01:16:19,199
aware of exactly everything that the

1825
01:16:23,390 --> 01:16:21,179
numbers represent so I'd I'd tend to

1826
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:23,400
hold that question open and say all

1827
01:16:28,729 --> 01:16:26,640
right it might just be uh some uh

1828
01:16:30,530 --> 01:16:28,739
Superstition there might be you know an

1829
01:16:33,229 --> 01:16:30,540
artificial engineer synchronicity for

1830
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:33,239
kicks or there could be more to it than

1831
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,280
we're aware and of course there's there

1832
01:16:40,130 --> 01:16:36,960
are things about all of this that I'm

1833
01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:40,140
sure I'm completely ignorant of but um

1834
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:41,640
the uh

1835
01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:45,120
you know there are many people who put a

1836
01:16:49,250 --> 01:16:47,460
lot of stock in in both white and black

1837
01:16:52,430 --> 01:16:49,260
magic and

1838
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:52,440
uh I would uh just certainly hope that

1839
01:16:57,410 --> 01:16:54,239
there are practitioners of white magic

1840
01:16:59,570 --> 01:16:57,420
that are as Adept as these these Black

1841
01:17:01,610 --> 01:16:59,580
magicians are we're really in a lot of

1842
01:17:03,290 --> 01:17:01,620
trouble no kidding

1843
01:17:05,570 --> 01:17:03,300
Um well hey man that about does it I

1844
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:05,580
mean it's been quite a ride there's a

1845
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:07,199
ton more in the book too I mean if

1846
01:17:10,490 --> 01:17:08,880
anyone out there still thinks there's a

1847
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,500
chance we're not completely

1848
01:17:14,450 --> 01:17:12,719
[\h__\h] then pick up the most dangerous

1849
01:17:16,669 --> 01:17:14,460
book in the world and I advise you to

1850
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:16,679
check out Kent's blog and his ebook 22

1851
01:17:20,990 --> 01:17:18,719
pages of steamy conspiracy porn and I

1852
01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:21,000
mean that in the best way possible

1853
01:17:24,290 --> 01:17:22,620
um Kent can you give the people your

1854
01:17:26,209 --> 01:17:24,300
website

1855
01:17:29,330 --> 01:17:26,219
it's the most dangerous book in the

1856
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:29,340
world.com and uh there's a Blog section

1857
01:17:33,530 --> 01:17:32,100
and then there's a uh a browse section

1858
01:17:35,090 --> 01:17:33,540
and there are a couple of I believe the

1859
01:17:37,550 --> 01:17:35,100
brow section is where we've got that

1860
01:17:40,669 --> 01:17:37,560
free ebook and uh

1861
01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:40,679
uh there's a contact form of listeners

1862
01:17:45,169 --> 01:17:42,840
or readers have any questions be glad to

1863
01:17:47,149 --> 01:17:45,179
answer questions and I've really enjoyed

1864
01:17:48,169 --> 01:17:47,159
doing your show nice man Adam was there

1865
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:48,179
anything else you wanted to throw out

1866
01:17:53,689 --> 01:17:50,880
before we let the man go no fascinating

1867
01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:53,699
the conversation thanks Kent nice yeah I

1868
01:17:56,689 --> 01:17:55,380
enjoyed it yeah thanks for coming to the

1869
01:17:58,189 --> 01:17:56,699
show it's been a real pleasure I look

1870
01:17:59,810 --> 01:17:58,199
forward to keeping up with your analysis

1871
01:18:01,250 --> 01:17:59,820
the current events hopefully we can talk

1872
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,260
again in the future

1873
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:03,120
sounds good take care all right man have

1874
01:18:08,450 --> 01:18:05,520
a good day bye-bye

1875
01:18:11,090 --> 01:18:08,460
God damn uh how was that what'd you

1876
01:18:13,550 --> 01:18:11,100
think yeah it was some good stuff

1877
01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:13,560
for sure dark stuff

1878
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:16,260
funny I was uh got a friend buddy of

1879
01:18:25,550 --> 01:18:19,440
mine he's not really into the conspiracy

1880
01:18:28,729 --> 01:18:25,560
research uh scene but we went down to LA

1881
01:18:29,950 --> 01:18:28,739
last weekend he started talking about uh

1882
01:18:34,669 --> 01:18:29,960
this book

1883
01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:34,679
by Kent no way yeah he goes [\h__\h] I'm

1884
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:36,300
we're going to be interviewing him in a

1885
01:18:41,870 --> 01:18:38,719
couple days that's awesome

1886
01:18:43,850 --> 01:18:41,880
synchronicities man yeah totally that's

1887
01:18:45,770 --> 01:18:43,860
what makes me wonder sometimes I'm like

1888
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:45,780
do these connections happen due to

1889
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,960
careful uh meticulous planning or is

1890
01:18:52,669 --> 01:18:50,400
there just some mechanism in the

1891
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,679
universe that causes these things to

1892
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:54,000
unfold

1893
01:19:00,110 --> 01:18:57,360
I think it's a mechanism in the universe

1894
01:19:00,950 --> 01:19:00,120
right so then it goes into

1895
01:19:02,830 --> 01:19:00,960
um

1896
01:19:05,530 --> 01:19:02,840
of course is it both okay

1897
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:05,540
Kent was talking about synthetic

1898
01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:07,920
synchronicities too that too and that's

1899
01:19:10,850 --> 01:19:09,060
something we talked about with Andy

1900
01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:10,860
coven last time you were here is they

1901
01:19:15,410 --> 01:19:12,540
they try to create these things maybe

1902
01:19:17,390 --> 01:19:15,420
it's because there is some type of uh

1903
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:17,400
maybe there is some natural force that

1904
01:19:21,470 --> 01:19:20,159
causes them and and the dark side just

1905
01:19:23,990 --> 01:19:21,480
tries to

1906
01:19:27,050 --> 01:19:24,000
imitate that Force

1907
01:19:30,530 --> 01:19:27,060
I don't know man but uh different book

1908
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:30,540
projects I've written on uh

1909
01:19:36,350 --> 01:19:33,780
uh for instance the prankster and the

1910
01:19:38,050 --> 01:19:36,360
conspiracy that the deeper I got down

1911
01:19:41,209 --> 01:19:38,060
that rabbit hole the more

1912
01:19:43,010 --> 01:19:41,219
synchronicities I experienced

1913
01:19:45,229 --> 01:19:43,020
yeah I've heard you talk about that you

1914
01:19:49,610 --> 01:19:45,239
want to give a couple examples of that

1915
01:19:52,850 --> 01:19:49,620
oh man I've forgotten most uh what the

1916
01:19:54,649 --> 01:19:52,860
main uh one that kicked it off

1917
01:20:00,890 --> 01:19:54,659
was uh

1918
01:20:02,930 --> 01:20:00,900
on thornly Gathering research material

1919
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:02,940
and I thought

1920
01:20:06,350 --> 01:20:04,800
if I ever have enough material I'll

1921
01:20:09,890 --> 01:20:06,360
write the book

1922
01:20:12,590 --> 01:20:09,900
and so as I mentioned uh at the

1923
01:20:16,850 --> 01:20:12,600
beginning of the show discordianism was

1924
01:20:18,530 --> 01:20:16,860
co-founded by Craig Hill and Kerry

1925
01:20:21,709 --> 01:20:18,540
Thornley so

1926
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:21,719
around 2000 I got an unsolicited email

1927
01:20:27,709 --> 01:20:24,960
and this was at an email address that uh

1928
01:20:29,930 --> 01:20:27,719
as a personal one nobody should have

1929
01:20:31,970 --> 01:20:29,940
known about except friends and families

1930
01:20:34,370 --> 01:20:31,980
not something I have who might go

1931
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:34,380
rightly a website

1932
01:20:41,629 --> 01:20:38,400
and so I received an email uh from a guy

1933
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:41,639
named Bob Newport saying uh that Greg

1934
01:20:46,430 --> 01:20:43,560
Hill had died

1935
01:20:49,070 --> 01:20:46,440
how he knew how to contact me I have no

1936
01:20:51,950 --> 01:20:49,080
idea this was like in 2000 like so I

1937
01:20:54,169 --> 01:20:51,960
emailed him back and said I asked did

1938
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:54,179
you know Kerry Thornley as well in

1939
01:21:01,129 --> 01:20:58,560
Newport uh responded he knew both

1940
01:21:03,050 --> 01:21:01,139
Thornley and Greg Hill and that he

1941
01:21:04,850 --> 01:21:03,060
himself was a co-founder of a

1942
01:21:08,990 --> 01:21:04,860
discordianism

1943
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:09,000
and so I ended up interviewing him and I

1944
01:21:15,169 --> 01:21:12,719
uh he uh introduced me to a lot of other

1945
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:15,179
people like Robert Anton Wilson and a

1946
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:16,800
number of folks that had known Carrie

1947
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:19,440
Thornley in the sky Newport ended up

1948
01:21:24,830 --> 01:21:22,320
passing on to me the discordian archives

1949
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:24,840
several years later which I'm using for

1950
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:28,320
all these projects and development so

1951
01:21:34,970 --> 01:21:32,159
newport's kind of a magical fellow yeah

1952
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:34,980
I asked him you know a couple years

1953
01:21:40,970 --> 01:21:37,679
later how how did you know to contact me

1954
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:40,980
and he had no idea

1955
01:21:46,610 --> 01:21:43,440
weird man

1956
01:21:48,530 --> 01:21:46,620
and without that contact I doubt if I

1957
01:21:51,530 --> 01:21:48,540
would have written the book

1958
01:21:54,110 --> 01:21:51,540
yeah and so there was a bunch of uh

1959
01:21:55,490 --> 01:21:54,120
synchronicities all all through that you

1960
01:22:00,050 --> 01:21:55,500
know it uh

1961
01:22:01,729 --> 01:22:00,060
it was uh just uh the little things that

1962
01:22:03,950 --> 01:22:01,739
I was uh visiting

1963
01:22:05,450 --> 01:22:03,960
Louise Lacey who I interviewed for the

1964
01:22:07,970 --> 01:22:05,460
book and she had known

1965
01:22:10,850 --> 01:22:07,980
Carrie real well and she was I asked her

1966
01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:10,860
if he hadn't she had any photographs

1967
01:22:15,530 --> 01:22:13,260
and uh

1968
01:22:19,250 --> 01:22:15,540
she there was this one she was looking

1969
01:22:21,530 --> 01:22:19,260
for Kerry Thornley playing a harmonica

1970
01:22:25,310 --> 01:22:21,540
and she was looking all around for it

1971
01:22:27,050 --> 01:22:25,320
couldn't uh find it and uh we got

1972
01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:27,060
discussing something else and she was

1973
01:22:31,850 --> 01:22:29,580
running her hands over a bookshelf and

1974
01:22:33,709 --> 01:22:31,860
showed me the book by Mickey Hart of the

1975
01:22:37,070 --> 01:22:33,719
Grateful Dead on drumming

1976
01:22:40,189 --> 01:22:37,080
Louise had done research helped him with

1977
01:22:42,350 --> 01:22:40,199
that book later after I left she pulled

1978
01:22:45,530 --> 01:22:42,360
out the book and opened it up and that's

1979
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:45,540
that photo we were looking for

1980
01:22:50,450 --> 01:22:48,719
of Kerry Thornley was in the book [\h__\h]

1981
01:22:52,430 --> 01:22:50,460
like that yeah

1982
01:22:54,410 --> 01:22:52,440
I mean those ones are

1983
01:22:55,970 --> 01:22:54,420
those kind of synchronicities do seem a

1984
01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:55,980
little more obviously they seem more

1985
01:23:00,590 --> 01:22:58,080
natural they are still weird and there's

1986
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:00,600
still like a a paranormal aspect to it

1987
01:23:05,209 --> 01:23:03,840
but when you look at the 911 stuff and

1988
01:23:07,729 --> 01:23:05,219
some of the stuff around these false

1989
01:23:08,810 --> 01:23:07,739
Flags it's so meticulously planned that

1990
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:08,820
it's just like

1991
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:10,800
I guess if you look at it from uh

1992
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:13,199
conspiracy 101 Point you'll be like yeah

1993
01:23:16,850 --> 01:23:15,600
some rich guys wanted to get some oil so

1994
01:23:18,290 --> 01:23:16,860
they flew some planes into some

1995
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:18,300
buildings and controlled the media and

1996
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:19,679
they got away with it now they're over

1997
01:23:23,810 --> 01:23:21,840
there fighting getting oil and [\h__\h] and

1998
01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:23,820
that's that's the basic idea but when

1999
01:23:29,629 --> 01:23:27,360
you go deeper it's a a lot more than

2000
01:23:30,770 --> 01:23:29,639
that getting some some oil and going

2001
01:23:32,330 --> 01:23:30,780
over there and making a little bit of

2002
01:23:34,010 --> 01:23:32,340
money that's just icing on the cake

2003
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:34,020
compared to the real damage that's being

2004
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:35,760
done to the psyche I mean I can't even

2005
01:23:39,709 --> 01:23:37,679
wear my shoes on an airplane you know

2006
01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:39,719
yeah will I ever will I ever be able to

2007
01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:41,280
like that's the thing when does it end

2008
01:23:44,689 --> 01:23:43,260
but I mean it just makes you feel

2009
01:23:46,370 --> 01:23:44,699
hopeless you know everyone I know is

2010
01:23:48,649 --> 01:23:46,380
working their ass off just to be broke

2011
01:23:50,270 --> 01:23:48,659
I'm coming into the real world at a time

2012
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,280
where a house isn't even a good [\h__\h]

2013
01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:52,320
investment anymore the media's version

2014
01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:53,940
of reality has never been further from

2015
01:23:57,649 --> 01:23:56,100
the truth and people have too much pride

2016
01:23:59,870 --> 01:23:57,659
to admit that they're One Missed alarm

2017
01:24:01,790 --> 01:23:59,880
clock away from losing their job

2018
01:24:03,530 --> 01:24:01,800
and you know it sucks you know that's

2019
01:24:05,330 --> 01:24:03,540
not Freedom we're all just kind of

2020
01:24:06,890 --> 01:24:05,340
waiting around for things to get better

2021
01:24:08,689 --> 01:24:06,900
but I think we're in the middle of

2022
01:24:09,709 --> 01:24:08,699
something big man I really do

2023
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:09,719
what do you think it might be in

2024
01:24:18,350 --> 01:24:14,990
um yeah I guess it's just you're you

2025
01:24:19,629 --> 01:24:18,360
know person's uh perspective maybe I'm

2026
01:24:23,390 --> 01:24:19,639
in denial

2027
01:24:25,490 --> 01:24:23,400
all this crazy [\h__\h] goes on but uh

2028
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:25,500
figuring I'm gonna try to be as positive

2029
01:24:30,110 --> 01:24:28,560
and have as much fun while we can groovy

2030
01:24:33,950 --> 01:24:30,120
I mean yeah what can you do you know

2031
01:24:35,450 --> 01:24:33,960
yeah so like it's like uh Kent was

2032
01:24:38,030 --> 01:24:35,460
saying uh

2033
01:24:41,330 --> 01:24:38,040
uh this is the deal this is the script

2034
01:24:43,370 --> 01:24:41,340
or it ain't [\h__\h] we can uh do about it I

2035
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:43,380
think what we can do about it what his

2036
01:24:48,830 --> 01:24:44,159
book

2037
01:24:51,169 --> 01:24:48,840
people up so they see these patterns you

2038
01:24:53,870 --> 01:24:51,179
know at least we we can become aware of

2039
01:24:56,990 --> 01:24:53,880
them with them but I also think you know

2040
01:24:59,629 --> 01:24:57,000
on a deeper level with this occult uh

2041
01:25:01,790 --> 01:24:59,639
script and meticulously planned as you

2042
01:25:05,090 --> 01:25:01,800
said what if this is happening on a

2043
01:25:06,890 --> 01:25:05,100
subconscious level what if what if it

2044
01:25:08,570 --> 01:25:06,900
isn't that meticulous it's just coming

2045
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:08,580
out of the mess

2046
01:25:14,930 --> 01:25:12,239
Collective conscious subconscious of the

2047
01:25:17,390 --> 01:25:14,940
planet that's true too like maybe

2048
01:25:19,370 --> 01:25:17,400
there's some way that they're uh that

2049
01:25:21,229 --> 01:25:19,380
that synchronistic power of the universe

2050
01:25:22,970 --> 01:25:21,239
that whatever that is maybe they're

2051
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:22,980
they're twisting that and harnessing it

2052
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:24,960
in a way that makes it Blossom itself

2053
01:25:31,070 --> 01:25:27,120
you know yeah yeah

2054
01:25:32,530 --> 01:25:31,080
so weird [\h__\h] man uh I'm not high enough

2055
01:25:35,209 --> 01:25:32,540
for this anymore

2056
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,219
but you know like we so often do when

2057
01:25:39,470 --> 01:25:37,199
you're here we close the show with one

2058
01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:39,480
of your tracks and what did you send me

2059
01:25:44,270 --> 01:25:41,100
this time what do we got

2060
01:25:47,390 --> 01:25:44,280
I believe I sent you a track called

2061
01:25:50,209 --> 01:25:47,400
fields of pain all right is that right

2062
01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:50,219
that is my second album

2063
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,560
songs for another world what's that

2064
01:26:00,410 --> 01:25:54,239
about

2065
01:26:03,250 --> 01:26:00,420
well that track I would based on the

2066
01:26:06,290 --> 01:26:03,260
title my guess is crop circles

2067
01:26:08,450 --> 01:26:06,300
I'm not sure what it's about it's it was

2068
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,460
like an instrumental thing I was working

2069
01:26:12,770 --> 01:26:10,080
on and uh

2070
01:26:17,149 --> 01:26:12,780
sounds kind of dark and gloomy there's

2071
01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:17,159
heavy guitars appropriate and uh

2072
01:26:23,090 --> 01:26:20,100
I there weren't really any lyrics but as

2073
01:26:26,030 --> 01:26:23,100
I was messing around the the ending of

2074
01:26:28,910 --> 01:26:26,040
the song came and I just repeat the

2075
01:26:31,729 --> 01:26:28,920
lyrics fields of pain it's kind of like

2076
01:26:33,050 --> 01:26:31,739
a nuclear Holocaust thing or a zombie

2077
01:26:35,810 --> 01:26:33,060
apocalypse

2078
01:26:37,010 --> 01:26:35,820
well it's uh

2079
01:26:38,330 --> 01:26:37,020
interesting that you mentioned that

2080
01:26:40,669 --> 01:26:38,340
because what that just jogged In My

2081
01:26:44,030 --> 01:26:40,679
Memory another aspect of

2082
01:26:45,890 --> 01:26:44,040
uh Kent's May 10th prediction is you

2083
01:26:48,110 --> 01:26:45,900
know we're he's talking about the ring

2084
01:26:50,570 --> 01:26:48,120
of fire he's talking about the crescent

2085
01:26:52,570 --> 01:26:50,580
moon and the trilogy and when you put

2086
01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:52,580
the a ring of fire

2087
01:26:57,950 --> 01:26:54,420
and

2088
01:27:00,350 --> 01:26:57,960
Crescent Moon together the symbol of the

2089
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,360
biohazard symbol that's what that is

2090
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:02,880
it's three Crescent moons and a ring of

2091
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:04,800
fire or a ring you know it could be a

2092
01:27:08,510 --> 01:27:06,000
ring or whatever the [\h__\h] you want it to

2093
01:27:10,850 --> 01:27:08,520
be but in this case it might be fire so

2094
01:27:12,110 --> 01:27:10,860
the biological thing something that

2095
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:12,120
scares the [\h__\h] out of me because it

2096
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:14,159
seems uncontainable you know that can

2097
01:27:17,570 --> 01:27:16,320
get out of hand real quick but uh at

2098
01:27:19,970 --> 01:27:17,580
least it's over in New York and we're

2099
01:27:23,090 --> 01:27:19,980
here in sunny California right

2100
01:27:25,970 --> 01:27:23,100
oh well yeah it's we're supposedly

2101
01:27:28,129 --> 01:27:25,980
getting all the radiation from Fukushima

2102
01:27:30,770 --> 01:27:28,139
that's true on this end of the country

2103
01:27:32,090 --> 01:27:30,780
but what's that gonna do man that's just

2104
01:27:34,370 --> 01:27:32,100
going to give you cancer which we've

2105
01:27:36,350 --> 01:27:34,380
probably already got anyway yeah

2106
01:27:38,290 --> 01:27:36,360
well it's been a pleasure man always

2107
01:27:41,930 --> 01:27:38,300
great talking to you

2108
01:27:43,490 --> 01:27:41,940
yeah but I do uh I do love having you on

2109
01:27:45,890 --> 01:27:43,500
I appreciate your weekly THC

2110
01:27:48,110 --> 01:27:45,900
contributions uh they're always fun to

2111
01:27:49,370 --> 01:27:48,120
go over uh people Adam's column

2112
01:27:50,689 --> 01:27:49,380
Transmissions from a dying Planet

2113
01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:50,699
appears once a week on the higher

2114
01:27:55,490 --> 01:27:53,040
sidechats.com not so much on a specific

2115
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:55,500
day as planned but uh and that's totally

2116
01:28:00,350 --> 01:27:58,560
uh on my on my end but it goes up once a

2117
01:28:02,390 --> 01:28:00,360
week and I do appreciate you sticking

2118
01:28:05,450 --> 01:28:02,400
with it man that's that's awesome

2119
01:28:07,970 --> 01:28:05,460
uh it's a pleasure sir all right man

2120
01:28:10,129 --> 01:28:07,980
well uh here's Adam go rightly's fields

2121
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:10,139
of pain it hurts so good and I will see